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Better Call Saul ***Spoilers***

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,886 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    It's nothing to do with Netflix the show airs weekly on AMC in America and Netflix have the rights for the rest of the world to air it the day after it airs in America.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,226 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    That's true for many other shows (as well as the other streaming services like Disney+ and Amazon Prime who might release 1-2 episodes at first before switching to weekly), however Better Call Saul is on an American channel called AMC. They have the main say in terms of when it airs. Netflix just have a deal for the episodes to be on Netflix a few hours later.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    Here I come, ever the devil's advocate....🤣

    I have a lot of sympathy for Howard. I believe that all Howard's apparent machinations against Jimmy and Kim, were directed by Chuck (or As I call him , Chuck The B4strd). Howard always deferred to Chuck, until Chuck threatened to destroy HHM.

    I never thought him creepy or weird, but he is always a stickler for detail, even down to his dress sense. Always look and behave professional. I said in a previous post that I didn't think the current attack him by Jimmy and Kim is born out of animosity, but simply as a way to force the hand on the Sandpiper deal.



  • Registered Users Posts: 322 ✭✭pjcb


    why did jimmy ring kim?

    he should have left it, whether he could organise a cast for their actor or not.... or whether he was never fully on-board and welcomed the opportunity to not go-ahead, he still shouldnt have rang kim and put her off her dream opportunity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    The only time I can remember that Howard was genuinely an asshole was when he kept Kim in doc review after winning the Mesa Verde account. But even that can be justified by Howard feeling let down and even betrayed by Kim. In any case, he definitely doesn't deserve what Kim and Jimmy are planning.

    Really interesting to note that Kim is in the driving seat with this. There have been a couple of times this season where Jimmy suggested ending it and walking away but Kim kept pushing to proceed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,400 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Omaha mentioned couple of times - I know Omaha Beach and Omaha, Nebraska are completely different places before anyone points it out 😊

    The reg plate on Kim’s mother’s car was a Nebraska one.

    ”Gene” gets sent to Omaha by vacuum repair guy.


    Reading the above theories about the coffee and think there’s something to it - focussed twice on it and usually no coincidences in this show.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Oh those videos I posted ‘Will Howard Fight’ - ‘Kim Jail’ . Were just fan theories. There was no new spoilers all before s6 e5 - analysis of previous episodes . The Kim one in particular was analysis of potential hidden tells or teasers that could predict her fate. Nothing concrete.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    In the driving seat literally and metaphorically when she chose the other road. Cleverly shot I thought.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,400 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    When Jimmy was in the vet did he take some of the drug or just buy some for later (possibly for use on Howard)?


    What was Kim seeing in his appearance that she made him look in mirror?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,199 ✭✭✭artvanderlay


    I've said it before about Kim craving punishment/discipline. She keeps edging towards the line but she still hasn't crossed it yet, at least not to the point that other people know what she is really like. I think she's screwed up because of her upbringing where there were no consequences for her actions. Her mother laughed off her shoplifting in the flashback, and in a previous flashback we saw Kim refusing to get in the car with her mother, who she believed had been drinking, and walking a long way home, so she is also very stubborn. Combining these traits explains her determination to continue down this destructive path, despite everybody thinking so highly of her. She'll keep going until she really crosses the line and then the punishment will be severe, but I think Jimmy will get her out with a new identity from the vacuum guy. Hell, she could be living with Jimmy in the post-BB timeline. Didn't the events of BB take place over only a year or so? Jimmy might have packed Kim off to keep her safe, but maintained contact with her, knowing that one day he would catch up with her when he himself needed a vacuum service.

    There's no way Lalo is getting out of this alive. His scenes, and Gus and Mike's scenes are kind of drag for me now. We know where everybody ends up so I hope they kill him off soon, and take the last few episodes to focus on things we don't already know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    Presumably to be used as a follow up to the baggy in the golf club......



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Not only that, they've been doing this since the beginning of 'Better Call Saul' and with the final season of 'Breaking Bad'. Nothing new here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭seraphimvc


    What a goddamn episode - well well this is a cliff hanger that I didnt expect to see this soon - but then does this mean we have a good chance next episode might be another cliff hanger???🤣

    Epi6: nothing to say except - tell me what's going on alreadyyy!

    So ya we got a big hint that things will go south:

    the champagne bottle thingy we have seen during flash forward of Jimmy's mansion - we though/knew that is from Kim (she took it previously from office). Presumably in this epi6 Jimmy was going to buy a new bottle for celebration later, but he didn't - likely they didnt get to celebrate eventually i.e. failed. So ya this whole is going to blow up for sure, likely on Kim...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭seraphimvc


    Yes good spot really. I think they have been hinting that for awhile, like Howard's legs shaking previous episode before his speech. Something something made Howard gets caught while 'high' in a court house etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I just learned something I completely missed s6 e6

    I was wondering why Casper said ‘do I know you?’ When he saw Lalo approach in the woods. It turns out that Casper previously saw Lalo from a distance.

    Ages ago When Fring was making up the cover story so Lalo would not know about the lab. Casper saw Lalo from a distance.

    Which is why he recognised Lalo from a distance in the last episode.

    Brilliant attention to detail and continuity!

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I thought he did buy the bottle? Was in queue with it when he saw judge in sling. I assumed that the cap he kept was from that bottle?

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,226 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    There was a shot of the bottle in the box left on the shelf where Saul was standing, showing that Saul left the bottle and ran out to call Kim (or also avoid being seen by the guy).

    Presumably the bottle will be purchased again later.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    That is a good theory on Kim’s motivation. I was just thinking she enjoys the thrill. Was even disappointed on missing D day as it was.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 544 ✭✭✭Greyjoy


    I'm struggling to care anymore about the Lalo v Gus story and that's no slight on the character or Dalton's performance both of which are fantastic. But Lalo's character is essentially a dead-end (no pun intended) from a story perspective given what we know of Gus in BB. It feels like it's eating up too much screen time simply to clear up a mystery about a single line of dialogue from BB : "Did Lalo send you?".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,226 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I still care about the Lalo V Gus story even just to see how it ends, how Mike and Gus beat Lalo and how Lalo ties in with Saul like you say. The only thing dragging it down at the minute is that Lalo is too far separated from Gus/Mike at the moment to the point where Gus/Mike are just left waiting, and we're spending so much time watching Lalo trying to get evidence about something we already know, and that Lalo already suspects enough that it feels pointless going to these lengths.

    Hopefully next week being the mid-season finale means it'll properly kick into gear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭seraphimvc


    It was last seen that Kim took the bottle cap from her previous office (there is a drawer scene, forgot what season now, or i remember wrong lol). Thats why I am saying that presumably if the cap we saw in the flashforward at the mansion is the same one Kim took from office - that means no new bottle was bought.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,226 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Yeah that's a fair point too, I'd forgotten that one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    Can't believe we're already at the mid season break next week. Feels like a lot of setting up is being done and all hell will break loose from Ep8 on.

    Such a good show.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,488 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    Watching the episode lsat night I was thinking this show could almost be a graphic novel wth the way the shots are framed. There were so many interesting framing choices in just the first scene with Howard. I assume only now with such small cameras available can shows now look like this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,678 ✭✭✭DeepBlue


    I assume with the first half of the final season devoted to Jimmy & Kim vs Howard that we're not really going to see much of Saul in his post Breaking Bad life? I'm not invested in their scam on Howard and tbh it doesn't make a lot of sense to me either in motivation or execution.

    They have teased a lot of "Gene" in previous seasons and now it seems that they've dropped the Gene version of Saul completely. That's a disappointment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,226 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    They certainly haven't dropped Gene. They used to have small Gene scenes at the start and maybe end of each season to give hints about Saul's future. Given that this is the final season, they're spending more time now completing the story of his past and setting things up and providing the info we will now need for the rest of Gene's story.

    The show is about how he became Saul. Whatever happens to him post-Breaking Bad is more a bookend of his story as a whole, so it'll probably only be an episode or so at most. But the show has always been more about his pre-Breaking Bad life as well as the other characters like Kim, Mike, Gus etc. I think things like how they're going after Howard are still just yet to play out fully so it's hard to properly determine their motivations for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    I think Gus or Mike will kill Lalo in the underground lab and Gus's story in BCS will end with him visiting Hector to gloat about Lalo's death.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    I presumed that's why Gus hid the gun in the lab the previous episode. Lalo will meet his end there and was more than likely buried there during the whole of Breaking Bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    For the second half of the season, I'm very curious to see how much of it is spent in the pre-Breaking Bad timeline, how much is spent during the BB timeline, and how much is spent in the post-BB (Gene) timeline. I'm even more curious to know if Kim is still part of Saul / Jimmy's life during the BB timeline.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,226 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I'm not sure. If Gus made it seem like he was involved in Lalo's death or disappearance, Hector would have sent the Cousins or Tuco after him. Up until the Cousins' deaths in Season 3 of Breaking Bad, Gus and Hector still have something of a Cold War going on.

    The end of BCS would be too early for Gus to show his hand. Nacho did him a huge favour by not just saying he wasn't working for Gus, but also pointing out that Gus ended up saving Hector's life when Nacho switched his medication. At best Gus might feign ignorance about Lalo's diappearance/death and the Salamancas might have their suspicions, but Gus is also too careful and reserved to give the game away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,027 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    So I'll post this preview . Again for those who don't watch trailers for the next episode PLEASE DON'T WATCH

    Some interesting theories going on here




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    Don't know how to selectively quote your post, but sure its just a little bit of typing, so:

    "PLEASE DON'T WATCH"

    Duly noted!!! 🤣🤣🤣.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,027 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Glad you got the message 🤣

    Also this will be directed by Thomas Schnauz who directed episode 9 from Season 5 (Bad Choice Road) which had the tense meeting between Lalo at Kim and Jimmy's apartment. He directs some of the important episodes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I just saw this video was after the s6 e6 preview. Some eejit/genius translated all the names from the visible code in the little black book the vet had!

    https://youtu.be/Dr31tNbgZEk

    Post edited by gormdubhgorm on

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,027 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Why post it you just let out a major spoiler for the next episode it's. up there in the thumbnail😲



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,226 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    There's no spoiler in the thumbnail. Even if the name in the book is that person, there's no indication that that person will or might appear in BCS, let alone in the next episode. It's just showing how Saul got most of his contacts that he used in Breaking Bad (like the vacuum repair guy).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Exactly it is only speculation and lists a number of characters/contacts. We don't know which will or will not appear and when. But we do know the little black book will play a part at some stage. All it was a translation of a list and speculation as to who would appear from the list and when. We already know many of those on the list already from BB.

    The speculation could be correct or incorrect, or partly true, but as of now it is only fan theory speculation.

    Post edited by gormdubhgorm on

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,027 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Still think that YouTube thumbnail should be removed from your post as if he does appear then it ruins it for those who don't want to know anything.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Fair enough done - I just left the youtube link instead now.

    But I still fail to see how it ruins anything. It is speculation and some of these characters are bound to make an appearance anyway! It is a prequel afterall. I found it gas that someone went to the trouble of translating it. The BCS writers just love leaving bits of info to invite speculation in the show. Regardless of how obscure. What fans or writers would go to so much trouble for any other series?

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    If you click on the YouTube link then it's your own fault. No spoilers in their post.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,027 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Thanks for doing that and yes he could appear in it but the actor hasn't confirmed if he is or not. I'm also staying well away from Reddit for the next week to avoid someone leaking whats going to happen.

    You are right it could just be a red herring thrown in to troll the fans



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    No bother, as I said myself before I avoid previews unless I have seen the episode.

    Speculation though, is fair game though as far as I am concerned. As it big part of the craic of the programme.

    There are all sorts of angles to consider. Hints, red herrings, lighting, colour choices camera shots etc. No doubt some will be miles off, some close, and some few will have considered. I still expect the writers to come up with a subtle plot twist.

    I am starting to think their continuity is so good because they work backwards from the ending. Plus have copious amounts of notes on potential angles from BB.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,027 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Maybe for the second half of the series we should open a small speculation thread that way we can speak freely about what theories are floating about there is a photo in the video I posted that could be a major spoiler for next week's episode I hope it doesn't come to pass what it looks like but then again it could be the crew and actors trolling us



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    It is a fan speculating. It is NOT a spoiler. It is only a spoiler if someone says what WILL happen. NOT what COULD happen. Big difference.

    If there was a speculation thread this thread would be very quiet. This show is all about speculation which is incredible in itself - given how we know how most of the characters turn out. I think that is testament to the way it is written.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,027 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Lol kind of true at the moment




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    This explains the Kim/Jimmy original plan for Howard - before they found out the Judges arm was in a sling.

    So basically spoilers for those who do not want the original plan explained.

    It puts two and two together. I’m Annoyed I missed one obvious link in the plan.


    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users Posts: 270 ✭✭Captain Barnacles


    haha!! there is a whole slew of these online, I love the way he says "partners down in Mehiicoo" ... That actor is brilliant, with the corporate music too hahaha great



  • Registered Users Posts: 842 ✭✭✭Hego Damask


    Is it on 2AM Irish time ?

    I have a dodgy box, might just wake myself up at 2am and tune into AMC ....



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