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Dr Ronan Glynn Resigning

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    I'd say more the case of proving their worth and ability during the pandemic and the private sector come in with a lucrative offer - and the allure of a job where you are not subject to constant social media attacks by anti-vax / covid denying loonatics



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,217 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    That's a big job opening there available now for all the self-proclaimed experts who were critical of actual qualified people. I hope some of them apply



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    2 possible reasons:

    Jumping ship to absolve himself of responsibility for decisions made during the pandemic.

    Pandemic was a great opportunity to advertise for the private sector.

    So that's 3 prominent decision makers from NPHET who have changed roles as a result of Covid. And people said what have they to gain....Philip Nolan left Maynooth, Tony and Glynn are gone.

    Hardly sensible for them to jump ship at the same time when in such prominent positions? It's like Fergie and the CEO leaving Utd at the same time, it resulted in a mess.

    He's leaving at the end of the month..he either resigned months ago and we weren't told (what would be the reason not to make it public?) or a deputy CMO position only has 3 weeks notice period..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    wow - only four posts in and already a mention of Bill Gates and Ukraine !!

    Its a lad changing jobs not some global conspiracy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭sam t smith


    You could easily imagine that he might want a less stressful job.

    But no, let’s think up a bunch of conspiracy theories.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,217 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Someone sounds a bit bitter that their own life didn't pan out they way they thought.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I just wonder with the three departing within months of each other… maybe it’s indicative of them not receiving the support for what they are trying to achieve. Medical science vs social / financial and political drivers..



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    think ye are reading pussyhands posts quite wrong folks, clearly to me its a wry comment on all the "experts" we have out there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,217 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Bill Gates is already up to his eyes what with all the microchips he has injected into people via the covid vaccine



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭crossman47


    As well as working for a government who won't back you up if trouble breaks out. Hes seen now how dispensable Tony was if politicians had to save their skins.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭CruelSummer




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Fair **** to him. He's put in his time now really, 2 years of long days and late night meetings without any form of bonus compensation and having to deal with a small but vocal cohort of sh1tbags calling you a villain and accusing you of lying and killing people when you're trying to do the exact opposite.

    An offer from the private sector for as a health consultant no doubt offering €200k, if not more, for 9-5 days, five-star hotel junkets, easy life. He'd be a fool not to take.

    Well deserved, hope he enjoys it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    which means that the private sector obviously valued his work over the last number of years



  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The aftermath was always going to get messy. People will ask questions about all those nursing home deaths and the state of our hospitals. As huge inflation and the economic reality kicks in, people will ask questions also.

    Best be gone when that happens.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,655 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    He leaves now then he doesn't need to worry about the mental health or hospital waiting list crisis that's coming around the corner as a result of the lockdowns of the past. Same reason Tony is going I'd guess



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,699 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    Pat Kenny or Claire Byrne could go for it. They were the biggest Bullshiters during all this.


    Best of luck to the guy.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,125 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Tired of a few years of hundred hour weeks.


    He is not the only Doctor retiring and that is a bigger story.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,591 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Sad to see all the institutional knowledge just walking out the door.

    One would imagine that the private sector made him an offer he couldn't refuse. In addition to that, we are likely to see investigation into the advice given at the time. Particularly in relation to advise that with hindsight could've been better - but such cold after the fact analysis won't account for the pressure and incomplete information they had at that time. Getting bullied by some grandstanding prick in an Oireachtas committee isn't for everyone.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Those issues are outside the remit of NPHET, so would not be looked at by him in his NPHET role anyway, but you already knew that



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  • Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭Whatdoesitmatter


    God Bless you Dr Gylnn



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Who said anything about conspiracy? And where did anyone mention Ukraine?



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands




  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    the boys who's recommendations locked down the country for nearly 2 years are leaving there jobs, one would be forgiven for being suspicious.

    Covid was a walk in the park in comparison to the troubles that are coming down the line facing the HSE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,217 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,530 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    At the risk of dragging the thread off topic, was there a country that didn't have lockdowns? (Bar ones like NZ that could close borders)

    What do you think they should have done, out of interest?

    I assume your application for the vacancy is in the post?



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Sorry to hear that, keep at it, you'll get there one day 🤩



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,217 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    You'd realise how silly your post sounds if you knew that the role of the CMO is simply to advise the government on public health matters. They aren't even part of the HSE



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    How many people had input in to the recommendations? How qualified were they in public health?

    you do realise Tony and Ronan weren't having a coffee in Costa and then picking up the phone to Leo to tell him what to do?

    if you read a lot of the nonsense on twitter this might be your perception ... but it's not the reality



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    I think he is more bitter because his life has turned out the way he thought



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,217 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Don't worry. You just focus on whinging about anyone who makes it to the level in their job that means they end up in the public eye. It won't help you directly in a practical sense, but it might temporarily make you feel better about yourself.


    When you see the new fella making his debut at midfield in the Championship over the Summer, ya can slouch back on the couch as well with the can of Bavaria balanced on your belly and point out everything that he's doing wrong and convince yourself you would be doing better than him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭griffin100


    Phillip Nolan’s role with Maynooth was up, he didn’t leave, his contract ended. He was given a job with SFI, probably to keep him in the public sector.

    I’m surprised Holohan lasted as long as he did tbh. Remember his wife passed away during covid. The TCD gig would have been an easy number and a nice retirement. I’d say he’s bitter over this.

    Not surprised at Glynn, he’s young and his stock will never be higher. Couple of hundred thousand a year plus bonuses and no Facebook PhD’s critiquing every decision you make, sounds good to me.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    Got the pension entitlements in the bag, moved on to a better wage. Covid’s been a good earner for some.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Spudman_20000


    Weren't EY the crowd our government were going to pay to illegally monitor the activity of citizens? I guess its just another one of those coincidences. Wonder when the people of this country will get tired of being taken for eejits.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭crossman47




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,823 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Covid had nothing to do with their pension entitlements.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭airy fairy


    I wish him all the best. He's been living under a magnifying glass over the last two years, and getting abuse from those who were, and still are, self appointed know-it-alls. A young man, no doubt snapped up into a job that has less hours, more money, will be very appreciated and can live privately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Sam McConkey to the nearest red telephone please........😉


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,217 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Sure he was in the job long before Covid. Would have had a much handier few years if there was no covid and would have gotten the same pension contributions and the same pay.

    There are probably people who think that if you work extra you get extra overtime because that is what their job does.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    @Multipass

    Got the pension entitlements in the bag, moved on to a better wage

    And why shouldn't he? You'd do it too.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Go on then, list the people I have apparently whinged about that reached a level in their job where they reach the public eye?

    Where did I say I would do better than Glynn?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭SAMTALK


    Begrudgery is alive and well in Ireland I see.

    If he has a better deal why wouldnt he take it. After an awful 2 years for all these people why wouldnt he go now when he has the chance


    The vile remarks that were made ( both personally and professionally) were sickening . These people were doing the job they were asked to do and whilst we wouldnt have agreed with everything they did and said they in way deserved the treatment they received on social media

    Has to have a left a bitter taste



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Covid has been a fantastic proving ground for a skip-full of Control centred "stuff". Lockdowns,Masks,Vaccines,Fraternising,Socialising,Compliance,Assimilation......Do as your told...It's for the best,cos We know nest etc ....

    It has shown Administrators Worldwide how to alter behaviour,how to isolate and render safe those who disagree,so it's no surprise that some recompense is now due,both in private and public sectors....Folly The Money....!

    The next sector to get itself going will be the Weaponising of much of what the above entailed....

    This clip is an hour long,and from 2018....not surprisingly,it's from the Home of the Free & Land of the Brave,but there are quite a few very interesting and apposite points thrashed out in it.

    Ya just gotta love the Modern War Institute 😃

    Remember it's 2018 BC (Before Covid) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N02SK9yd60s&ab_channel=ModernWarInstitute


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    He has valuable knowledge into the inner workings of the HSE, the Government and NPHET. That’s why he’s getting the private gig. EY solutions have a business interest in influencing Government’s in their decision making strategies going forward.

    ‘Load of horses***e' – Dr Tony Holohan’s reaction to Government plan and lack of trust in Stephen Donnelly on pandemic matters

    Funny how this article appeared not long before the announcement:

    ”Information from social media and banking data on takeaway habits was also to be collated and tracked under the strategy developed by consultancy firm EY.

    “What emerged was an almost Orwellian plan, bizarrely dubbed 1 Government Centre (1GC),” the book says.

    The Government ultimately ditched the plan which Dr Holohan said was a “load of horses***e” in meetings.

    Nphet was concerned with EY being enlisted by the Government to assist in tackling the virus and developing social distancing guidelines. However, Mr Donnelly was supportive of the firm being involved in pandemic discussions.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭boombang


    I don't rate EY's health consulting. I think this must be a move to get a good pay packet rather than really making any important impact. I think he's already made his contribution to the state and don't resent him going to coin it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,331 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Don't forget the COO of the HSE jumped ship as well. That's pretty much all the main players gone except for Colm Henry and Paul Reid.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Agreed. I don’t begrudge him moving position, especially if the pay & conditions are better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,021 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    I personally think Ronan Glynn did an excellent job , there was a few mis steps but given the task at hand he performed admirably. I do sense there's an unpleasant atmosphere in the DOH , almost Toxic since that awful Watt took over and no surprise there's numerous departures.

    Glynn has astonishing academic qualifications including two PhD's , I suspect he'll work in the private sector for a few years and will be back as CMO in the future.

    Good luck to him, can anyone blame him getting away from the Muppets at the DOH to include the woeful minister, allegedly in charge.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nobody can blame them. The simple thing to do was always just to order severe lockdowns and then blame the public for not complying and then getting their promotions before questions are asked.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Sweden has among the lowest excess deaths for the period of Covid.



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