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Dr Ronan Glynn Resigning

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,196 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Don't worry. You just focus on whinging about anyone who makes it to the level in their job that means they end up in the public eye. It won't help you directly in a practical sense, but it might temporarily make you feel better about yourself.


    When you see the new fella making his debut at midfield in the Championship over the Summer, ya can slouch back on the couch as well with the can of Bavaria balanced on your belly and point out everything that he's doing wrong and convince yourself you would be doing better than him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,988 ✭✭✭griffin100


    Phillip Nolan’s role with Maynooth was up, he didn’t leave, his contract ended. He was given a job with SFI, probably to keep him in the public sector.

    I’m surprised Holohan lasted as long as he did tbh. Remember his wife passed away during covid. The TCD gig would have been an easy number and a nice retirement. I’d say he’s bitter over this.

    Not surprised at Glynn, he’s young and his stock will never be higher. Couple of hundred thousand a year plus bonuses and no Facebook PhD’s critiquing every decision you make, sounds good to me.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    Got the pension entitlements in the bag, moved on to a better wage. Covid’s been a good earner for some.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Spudman_20000


    Weren't EY the crowd our government were going to pay to illegally monitor the activity of citizens? I guess its just another one of those coincidences. Wonder when the people of this country will get tired of being taken for eejits.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭crossman47




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,823 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Covid had nothing to do with their pension entitlements.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭airy fairy


    I wish him all the best. He's been living under a magnifying glass over the last two years, and getting abuse from those who were, and still are, self appointed know-it-alls. A young man, no doubt snapped up into a job that has less hours, more money, will be very appreciated and can live privately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Sam McConkey to the nearest red telephone please........😉


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,196 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Sure he was in the job long before Covid. Would have had a much handier few years if there was no covid and would have gotten the same pension contributions and the same pay.

    There are probably people who think that if you work extra you get extra overtime because that is what their job does.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    @Multipass

    Got the pension entitlements in the bag, moved on to a better wage

    And why shouldn't he? You'd do it too.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Go on then, list the people I have apparently whinged about that reached a level in their job where they reach the public eye?

    Where did I say I would do better than Glynn?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭SAMTALK


    Begrudgery is alive and well in Ireland I see.

    If he has a better deal why wouldnt he take it. After an awful 2 years for all these people why wouldnt he go now when he has the chance


    The vile remarks that were made ( both personally and professionally) were sickening . These people were doing the job they were asked to do and whilst we wouldnt have agreed with everything they did and said they in way deserved the treatment they received on social media

    Has to have a left a bitter taste



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Covid has been a fantastic proving ground for a skip-full of Control centred "stuff". Lockdowns,Masks,Vaccines,Fraternising,Socialising,Compliance,Assimilation......Do as your told...It's for the best,cos We know nest etc ....

    It has shown Administrators Worldwide how to alter behaviour,how to isolate and render safe those who disagree,so it's no surprise that some recompense is now due,both in private and public sectors....Folly The Money....!

    The next sector to get itself going will be the Weaponising of much of what the above entailed....

    This clip is an hour long,and from 2018....not surprisingly,it's from the Home of the Free & Land of the Brave,but there are quite a few very interesting and apposite points thrashed out in it.

    Ya just gotta love the Modern War Institute 😃

    Remember it's 2018 BC (Before Covid) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N02SK9yd60s&ab_channel=ModernWarInstitute


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    He has valuable knowledge into the inner workings of the HSE, the Government and NPHET. That’s why he’s getting the private gig. EY solutions have a business interest in influencing Government’s in their decision making strategies going forward.

    ‘Load of horses***e' – Dr Tony Holohan’s reaction to Government plan and lack of trust in Stephen Donnelly on pandemic matters

    Funny how this article appeared not long before the announcement:

    ”Information from social media and banking data on takeaway habits was also to be collated and tracked under the strategy developed by consultancy firm EY.

    “What emerged was an almost Orwellian plan, bizarrely dubbed 1 Government Centre (1GC),” the book says.

    The Government ultimately ditched the plan which Dr Holohan said was a “load of horses***e” in meetings.

    Nphet was concerned with EY being enlisted by the Government to assist in tackling the virus and developing social distancing guidelines. However, Mr Donnelly was supportive of the firm being involved in pandemic discussions.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭boombang


    I don't rate EY's health consulting. I think this must be a move to get a good pay packet rather than really making any important impact. I think he's already made his contribution to the state and don't resent him going to coin it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,330 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Don't forget the COO of the HSE jumped ship as well. That's pretty much all the main players gone except for Colm Henry and Paul Reid.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Agreed. I don’t begrudge him moving position, especially if the pay & conditions are better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,021 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    I personally think Ronan Glynn did an excellent job , there was a few mis steps but given the task at hand he performed admirably. I do sense there's an unpleasant atmosphere in the DOH , almost Toxic since that awful Watt took over and no surprise there's numerous departures.

    Glynn has astonishing academic qualifications including two PhD's , I suspect he'll work in the private sector for a few years and will be back as CMO in the future.

    Good luck to him, can anyone blame him getting away from the Muppets at the DOH to include the woeful minister, allegedly in charge.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nobody can blame them. The simple thing to do was always just to order severe lockdowns and then blame the public for not complying and then getting their promotions before questions are asked.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Sweden has among the lowest excess deaths for the period of Covid.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 389 ✭✭tommybrees


    At the start yeah lockdown was fair enough because we didn't no any better then. Did it have to Go on until only a few months ago, I really don't think so.

    Yeah of course the application is in the post



  • Registered Users Posts: 389 ✭✭tommybrees


    What is silly about my post Donald?

    Don't no how many but they were particularly vocal and well known.

    Don't have to read nonsense on twitter whippet, enough has been said about covid now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Don't Chute!


    Don’t question anything about our leaders. They are doing a great job, you’re just racist/alt right/begrudger/anti vaxxer (insert your own insult) And people wonder why there is no accountability in this country. We don’t get it because we don’t demand it and we don’t demand it because deep down we’re all just cute hoors trying to pull the wool over everyone’s eyes and therefore actually quite admire these people.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    I doubt the conditions are better.He may not realise it but EY will likely demand more hours of him than the Dept as standard, and not just in emergencies as per the last few years.

    I am guessing they backed a dump truck of money up to his door basically, although I am surprised he hasn't gone for Holohan's role (or maybe he did, and didn't get it). Doubt the pension conditions are better.

    I suppose it is new opportunities mainly.I've worked (and do work) in State and semi state bodies, it would be quite regular for staff to jump from consultancies to the public body, and vice versa. It happens a lot.It doesn't always work out long term, when each realises the other isn't as great as it looked from over the fence, but can only learn that in hindsight.

    I'll be happy to not have a clue who replaces either of those men in their posts.Ignorance of who our CMO is means no more covid restrictions as far as I am concerned, so I hope it stays that way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,642 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    NPHET is gone so your point is moot... Would those issues be outside the remit of the CMO/Deputy CMO? I'd think not



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Major part of the reason people are leaving public service is because of the relentless abuse they get on places like Boards.ie.

    Not popular to say it here obviously, but its for sure a factor.

    You'll wonder then why the quality of public servants declines.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,196 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    The office of the CMO has nothing to do with the running of the HSE. The HSE's job is to administer the health system. The CMO's role is to advise the government on public health matters. If the HSE fu^ks up their responsibilities, the CMO isn't answerable.



  • Registered Users Posts: 313 ✭✭NedsNotDead


    I think your vastly overestimating the influence Boards. ie has on the general publics thinking



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    If I were him, I'd be leaving too. Public figures (including civil servants) are now fodder for grand standing TDs in Oireachtas committees.

    McSharry being the latest example of such behaviour.

    Why would you be arsed facing such abuse when you can earn more, often with better T&C's in the private sector.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,524 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    The poster said "places like boards.ie" and I would agree with them.

    Why anyone would put themselves up to be thrown to the lions of twitter/ Facebook/ boards (and they're just the ones I know of) is a mystery to me - and for a fraction of the money available in the private sector.



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