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Best way to deal with people who illegally park in disabled spaces?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,945 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    No, its hard to know when you are looking for a space whether someone is parked legitimately or not and you have more to do than go looking for guards or traffic wardens. I did on one occasion ask a woman who had parked in a disabled space if she had a card - she could easily have been going to fetch someone who was disabled - and she cheerfully said she had. But I looked as I passed the car and there was no card. This was directly opposite a garda station, but I was heading back down to where I had left my husband and didn't have time to make anything of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    I didn't mean did you have a word with the Guards at the time, I meant did you ever pop into a Garda station to raise the issue, I definitely would if I was kept from using disables spaces by ignorant lazy wasters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭CreadanLady


    Traffic wardens cannot enforce parking laws in private areas. And Gardai won't do it. It would cause a furore.

    If you were a Garda you'd do what your sergeant tells you to do! And they won't be telling you to go down to Dunnes and hand out parking tickets in the car park. I don't even know if the Gardai have power to enforce parking in a private area. I doubt it.

    Stupid idea that often gets bandied about. So who is going to administer and pay for it? Look at the waste of it! Crushing good cars for parking in the wrong place. Do you realise the law would have to be changed to allow it? And there is no way in hell TDs would vote for crushing people's cars.

    I think you should crush this idea on the spot.

    The MFV Creadan Lady is a mussel dredger from Dunmore East.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    There's a young Garda where I live who's become notorious for enforcing "no parking in disability spaces".

    He seems to keep an eye on spaces outside a local bank and chemist and be often seen placing summons on cars.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    Fair play to him, that is the sort of Guard we want.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,074 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Re parent and child spaces - I have twins. Which isn’t uncommon. It is impossible to get car seats out of both sides of the car in most normal parking spaces. It was a huge inconvenience for me if these were taken by people who didn’t need them. Nowadays One of the twins has a disability but doesn’t qualify for a badge. He has zero sense of safety so once again I’m glad of the parent and child spaces when he is with me. I don’t use them when I just have the other twin with me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭Dollar Thief


    An uncle of mine has a disabled permit. He always drives my aunty to get the messages and he stops and waits in the disabled zone and lets her out there and she comes back and loads the car there.

    ”Technically”, he’s not breaking the letter of the rules as he is driving, it’s his permit and he’s using a disabled space.

    But it’s real shıtty behaviour.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭sam t smith


    Be careful or I’ll send the mobile car crushers to crush your car. 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,999 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    It's a very risky game when smearing shite on door handle that you think is illegally parked in a capper spot. Maybe, just maybe, they have a hidden disability and i'd feel awful if a one legged man had shite all over his hands



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    It’s always such a delight to see self-righteous morons advocate damaging other people’s property.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭sam t smith


    Worse would be a one armed man ending up with shite all over his one hand. 💩🤙🏻



  • Posts: 4,575 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    When someone is granted a disability badge they get also receive a guide on its use. While it is not a "rule", one of the things both DDAI and IWA request is that where possible, if a regular space will suffice (as in your uncle's case) that badge holders leave disability bays free for others who might have a greater need.

    If you're uncle is taking up a bay while just waiting in the car, and his wife is able-bodied enough that she could walk 50 meters or more to a regular parking space, then yes, I agree, its poor behaviour and goes totally against the spirit in which the DDAI and IWA issue permits.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭Jellybaby_1


    This is my predicament. I regularly drive elderly relatives, all in their 90's, sometimes its just to get shopping or sometimes out for lunch. One of my elderly passengers can't walk without a very cumbersome walking frame, a big yoke with a seat built into it, I can just about lift it out of the boot. I sometimes park in the disabled bay just to be able to get her out of the car. I've asked her to apply for a disabled badge but she refuses as she is in denial about her disability. Do you think I'm wrong if I park in the disabled bay?



  • Posts: 4,575 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Technically, you shouldn't be using a disabled space. Sorry if thats not what you wanted to hear.

    Disability Bays are reserved for blue badge holders. Your relative(s) are not blue badge holder(s).

    Would you not make an application for her, on her behalf? It's not expensive, the cost is €35.00.

    The same applies to your other elderly relatives. They should be blue badge holders if you use a disabilty space while transporting them.

    Badges are granted to individuals, not cars, or the people transporting the disabled.

    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭Jellybaby_1


    Its exactly what I expected to hear. However, I know a woman in her 50's whose husband passed away and he had had a disabled badge. After his death she continued to use it herself although she didn't need it. What I'm saying is just because someone has a disabled badge doesn't mean they are disabled and just because someone doesn't have a badge doesn't mean they are not disabled. Its a conundrum.



  • Posts: 4,575 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A conundrum? No, not really. No blue badge should mean no blue badge parking - irrespective of what anyone else is doing. That woman was not a blue badge holder, her deceased husband was.

    When a badge holder passes away, their badge is supposed to be returned to the issuing body immediately, though it's a well known abuse that family members do continue using them.

    This is one of the reasons given by the issuing bodies why badges have photos on them, and are only issued for max 2 years at a time. Also why there is a large expiry date printed on the front of the badge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,103 ✭✭✭Cork Lass


    It's not a conundrum at all. Someone elses misuse does't justify your misuse, it just means 2 less spaces for those that need them. I've been in a situation a few times where I've gone to a shopping centre and have had to come home again because I couldn't get a suitable space - if people are using these spaces when they are not entitled to them then that's downright lousy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,346 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    Non issue, of course you should use it. Put "application in post" on window in case some twat decides to damage your car. All people in 90s, their the ones that need it.

    Don't park in a place where you can be fined.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    What do we want?? EQUALITY!!!

    When do we want it?? Only when it’s advantageous to us!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭Dollar Thief




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    So whilst giving out about people parking “illegally” in disabled spots you’ve no issue retelling the story about when you used to illegally park in the middle of the road, at a junction. A much more dangerous move. The absolute hypocrisy/sense of entitlement is mind bending.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,407 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Not really surprising that your mind is easily bent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,945 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I suppose it would be a waste of time asking exactly how you would deal with that situation? But of course you are not likely to have to, are you?



  • Posts: 4,575 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    "Application in post" does not make any difference.

    The DDAI requires expired badges to be returned when applying for renewal, and even those badge holders have to forsake disability parking for a few weeks until their new badge is issued. There was a thread about it recently.

    Jellybaby1, you should organise an application and do things right. If your relative needs a walker, they will be awarded a badge. Then it will be a non-issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    Park somewhere safe, in the sightline of the disabled spot, then move to it once free. If that's not possible. Do a few laps of the shop until it becomes free.

    Putting other road users in danger isn't something I'd be telling the world about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    How to announce to the world that you are in the very privileged position to not need to disabled parking space, and lack all empathy for those that do; A Guide....


    That could take hours. People with that level of disability and their carers already have to put their lives on hold because of their disability. Already, everything is much more difficult and takes a lot longer. The person parked in the disability parking spot is the person in the wrong here. What if someone needs to use the bathroom and it takes 5-10 mins to get out of the car? What if sitting for that long in a car causes a lot of pain? The actual reasons why those parking spots are used is not something those who casually use them think about.


    The fact you think you have some sort of moral high ground here and that you think the people wanting to use those spaces when they need them is a sense of entitlement, when the rest of us are trying to make the lives of those who are having a rough time a little easier.... that is what's mind boggling. The fact you think someone wanting to be able to live their life as normally as possible and getting annoyed when some self entitled person prevents that is hypocritical, and yet you're the one who feels entitled to tell that person who is already struggling that they should have to stay out of the way for possibly hours so they don't inconvenience you for a few minutes... that is what's mind boggling.

    The absolute hypocrisy/sense of entitlement is mind bending.

    Pot. Kettle. Black.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    "The person parked in the disability parking spot is the person in the wrong here." - Jumping to a lot of conclusions there to come across as soooooooooooo self righteous. The OP never once states that the person parked in the disabled spot shouldn't have been there. I'd imagine there is more than one blue badge holder in the OP's town/village, due to their complaint that there is only one space. The rest of your drivel is laughable due to it being based on the bolded leap you've made.

    Were you never told before an exam, read the entire question (post) and make sure you understand it before answering. It's decent life advice too. Jumping in two footed without reading posts properly can make people look like idiots.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    Perhaps you need to read the post you were attacking where that exact scenario is addressed?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    Yeah, she posited a 'what if'. As I said, park within sight of the car, and move to the spot when it is safe to. Same as any rational able-bodied or disabled person would. And in fairness, how often does someone have to attend the opticians?? Once a year max??



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