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Everything you always wanted to know about electric vehicle (but were afraid to ask)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,167 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Reduced tolls ends this year anyway doesn’t it? So little point changing now….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,120 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    I don't think that's decided yet. And anyway I save about €250 per year on the tolls and the year is only started so that would still be a good saving of about €170 for me if I signed up now.

    Same saving as taking the cable out of your car, charging up for free at your local Lidl every week for the next 3-5 years, but with zero hassle. Only sayin'...

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,326 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Is there anywhere you can park a phev for a few hours cheaply or free to get some charge around the country.

    Had in my head there was free council ones just can't see a list of them anywhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,120 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,326 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Doh! seriously though is there free council ones or was I dreaming, like it makes no sense to use a normal charge point when out and about with a slow charging phev.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭eagerv


    In Waterford car parking is free for a PHEV if plugged in at any council owned spot, an EV can park for free at any council owned parking. Normal charging rates apply.

    https://www.waterfordcouncil.ie/departments/roads-parking/parking.htm



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,326 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    That's what I was thinking of, pay for parking get some charge included.

    Are these points listed anywhere for the entire country, I didn't see them on a charging app.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭eagerv


    What I quoted is the opposite🙂. You pay for charging and get parking for free.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,386 ✭✭✭KCross


    pay for parking get some charge included.

    There is no distinction though between BEV and PHEV for that.


    like it makes no sense to use a normal charge point when out and about with a slow charging phev.

    What do you mean by "normal charge point" and it making no sense.

    The public AC charge points are all much the same. The eCars ones are usually 22kW and you get some in multi-story car parks which might be limited to 7kW but the rate you get will all depend on your car, but like I said, no distinction between BEV and PHEV.


    And there isnt a single list to look at. Its down to each council as to whether they give free parking or not. Some do, some dont.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,362 ✭✭✭ionapaul


    Hey folks - I'm getting a Volvo XC40 Recharge fully electric in a few months, will be my first electric car. I will be a total novice and other than knowing the car will now be charged via electricity and no petrol will be used, and that therefore I'll need to get a charging point installed somewhere at the front of our house, I'm clueless! I drive about 10,000km a year, mainly made up of a short commute a few days a week in Dublin and occasional drives to/from my parent's home in Galway city.

    Is there anything else in addition to the charging point I should arrange ahead of getting the car itself? Anything it would be clever to sign up for, cards I should get, etc...? Would charging the car via a three-pin socket through the window at my parent's house be OK to recharge the battery ahead of driving from Galway to Dublin city?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,120 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    "Is there anything else in addition to the charging point I should arrange ahead of getting the car itself? Anything it would be clever to sign up for, cards I should get, etc...?"

    Get a night rate electricity meter. It's free and you will save a fortune with an EV. Sign up for at least the ESB eCars and EasyGo cards. If you already have or are planning to get solar PV on your house, get a smart charge point like a Zappi. Get a tethered charge point and make sure your cable will be long enough

    "Would charging the car via a three-pin socket through the window at my parent's house be OK to recharge the battery ahead of driving from Galway to Dublin city?"

    Yes perfectly fine

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,719 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Loads but it’s a big country. Where are you looking for ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,326 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    By Normal I meant where you'd charge an EV for 20 minutes or so, the phev charges a lot slower so would want to park it up for maybe 2hrs, which I think you get fined for at an esb point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,326 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭kanuseeme




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,120 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    There's always culchie EVs in Dublin being clamped. The owners thought they did the right thing as in their home county parking is free while charging. Not in Dublin. Sh1tty thing to come back to a clamped car and a big fine. There should be one common policy for the whole country on this.

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,386 ✭✭✭KCross


    So you need to distinguish AC and DC here or else it’s not clear what you are actually asking.

    Most PHEVs can’t charge at any DC charger (they don’t have DC port) and that’s where EVs would charge for 20mins.

    Its the AC charge points you are thinking of I’d say as you would need a few hours on them and the 45min overstay fee doesn’t apply to AC charge points.

    On the apps you need to filter for AC charge points and then find out what the council do in terms of parking fees while charging.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,326 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    It's AC type 2. Ah right thought the overstay fee would kick in hence I thought it would be pointless to use an esb point as it'll only take 3.7kW it's about 5hrs for a full charge. So i'm corrrect in thinking i'd park for maybe 2.5hrs and pay around 2.50ish and no overstay fee.

    Is there no cap on how long you can stay at an esb AC charger? Can't see anything in the t's and c's?

    Post edited by drunkmonkey on


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,474 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    If parking in Dublin, you’ll pay €3 per hour for the parking and then the new ESB rates for charging. 27c a kWh at the moment, but increasing next month I think.

    madness to consider this in a PHEV in my opinion. The cost is very prohibited.


    your 2.5 hour stay in Dublin would be about €7.50 in parking and about €3 in charging fees.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭kanuseeme


    LoL, what's the madness?

    The only thing extra is 3 euros, spend the extra 3 euros and save the same again on fuel, now parking is 4.50.

    It's hilarious to park near or beside a charger, pay for parking anyway, and then spend more on fuel because of something, someone, or some other reason?

    Surely "cost is very prohibited" cannot be the reason, electricity is cheaper than fuel.

    Post edited by kanuseeme on


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  • Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,725 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    There will be on may first. €8 after 10 hours.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭Sabre Man


    On 22th March 2022, a convoy of Teslas (and a few ICE vehicles) departed Ireland for Poznan in Poland, a journey of almost 2,000 km. On the 28th they returned with 72 Ukrainian refugees.

    In this video, Tom McEnaney of the IODP (International Orphanage Development Programme) and John Casey, president of Tesla Owners Ireland, talk about how this mission came about, how they did it and their next convoy.




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,474 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    LOL

    I was under the impression the OP was looking for charge points while on route Dub-Cor.

    I wouldn’t be stopping to charge a PHEV on AC and paying those fees. The time lost is a nuisance. The same cost would power the car by petrol and you get to the destination hours earlier.

    Every mile in EV is better than ICE but it has to be workable and convenient as a user.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭PaulJoseph22


    If EV is so much better, why do so many households have an ICE vehicle as a backup?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭ACAandCTA


    Travelling from Louth to Cork in a few weeks in an id3 and trying to plan and understand the public charging setup definitively (currently charge at home,have used the lidl easygo AC chargers as a try out and will try out the DC chargers before I go).

    ID3 AC charges at 11kw max, so plan to use one of the DC chargers at either Cashel or Fermoy, depending on how the range depletes en route!

    In Cashel,if someone is using the Chademo 50kw then the CCS is out of action until they're done, correct? Could I still use the AC charger and get my 11kw? or else go to ionity chargers nearby.

    In Fermoy, of those new chargers one is 'double sided', so two cars could both charge at up to 150kw without reduction/ load balancing or is the 150kw split if there are 2 cars charging? Then there is another unit with CCS,Chademo and AC, so the same thing as Cashel whereby one car can get the 50kw DC and another car can get the up to 22kw AC? The ID3 is Max 100kw.

    Thanks in advance, just trying to understand the potential waiting and general way of it all. Also, if any particular etiquette worth keeping in mind I'm happy to take the education (I'm aware of the charge to 80% 'rule'!).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,167 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Money.

    Id love to replace my 320d M-Sport with a little EV, even an old Leaf but just can’t afford to right now. It only gets used now 2-4 times a month, but it’s workload would be easily covered with a car with ~60km range…



  • Posts: 2,732 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Electric is fuel. Also, time is even more cost. 30 minutes sitting in charger costs more than the fueling



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,474 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,474 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    You’d have to ask them. Maybe they are waiting on premium EV to replace their ICE with 🤯

    Some people are afraid to make the full switch, or nervous or don’t know what they want so they go half in, like yourself with your plug in hybrid. The 530e in our house is still on the same tank of petrol that went in before Christmas, but by god an EV wouldn’t suit the owner…..seemly 😂😂😂



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,120 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Most humans are extremely afraid of change and seem to be programmed to do whatever it takes to stop change from happening, Gumbo. You and I are the opposite, but we are the outliers here.

    We only had one family car back in 2016, but we changed it to a full EV, a short range one at that. Now we have two family cars, both EV. And we have a huge array of solar PV panels. And a large solar thermal setup for heating water. And a large powerwall. I can't wait to have my gas connection switched off, although it won't be easy or cheap as my house is not that well insulated. We need to all wean ourselves off our addiction to fossil fuels. Soon. Our targets should all be within the next few years. And for our grid to be fossil fuel free within 10 years.

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



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