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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭goldenmick



    Latest Russian prisoner swap tactics, and the barbaric tortures they've inflicted on civilian prisoners who they kidnapped.



    22:17

    Russia attempts to trade civilians for military prisoners - Ukraine


    Joel Gunter

    Reporting from Kyiv

    Moscow has attempted to trade Ukrainian civilians for Russian military prisoners, according to Ukraine’s deputy prime minister - a move forbidden by the Geneva Convention.

    Iryna Vereshchuk told the BBC that her office, which is responsible for negotiating prisoner swaps, declined and instructed Russia to send back Ukrainian civilians it had taken.

    There is growing evidence that Russia has forcibly deported large numbers of civilians across the border since it invaded the country in February.

    Ms Vereshchuk said they were being used as hostages.“That's why they captured all these hostages - civilians, women, employees of local councils, to try and use them," she said.

    “We know there are more than a thousand hostages there - including almost 500 women,” she said. “We know they are in prisons and pre-trial detention centres in Kursk, in Briansk, in Riazan, in Rostov."

    She said Russia had also dragged its feet in sending back women civilians. “We are extracting women almost with pliers,” she said. “Now we refuse to hold an exchange with no women in the list. That is how we try to somehow rescue our women and civilians.”

    In the most recent exchange, nine civilians were sent back with severe injuries, including amputations performed in Russia.

    “There were badly injured people in this exchange - amputated limbs, sepsis, other severe injuries," Ms Vereshchuk said.

    “There were clear signs of torture," she said. "The stories they told us are terrible."



  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Its long since time,that nato stopped sitting on its hands and give them ukraines their no-fly zone


    These sanctions simply arent working,


    they sat on hands for years during balkens,looking on at war crimes being committed,nothing was learned from that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    Nobody knows the true loses of course but I still think Putin has the numbers especially as he doesn't care about his own soldiers and will keep sending them in .I would love to see them pushed back and out but that is still an outside bet I think.I would think Putin could still go for something either chemical or nuke rather than face a very public and humiliating defeat .We all know he is a very dangerous and capable of anything to keep face as he would see it .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,427 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    "We have serious losses but the Russians' losses are much much bigger...They have colossal losses,"

    presidential adviser Oleksiy Arestovych said.


    So from that you see Russia winning today and Ukraine loosing today?

    Has there been any major towns/key supply hubs taken by Russia in the past 24hrs?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,427 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Has this not being explained over and over again?

    NATO would need to shoot down any and all planes over Ukraine, including Ukranian ones.

    A lot of cruise missiles are being air launched within Russian airspace, so NATO would need to take those planes out (in Russian airspace).

    Take out SAM sites within Russia also. The Black Sea fleet would also need to be sunk by NATO including the subs there.

    Sure none of that would be seen as a massive escalation from the Russian POV would it?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,093 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    You need to be careful what you read.

    I follow both Ukrainian and Russian sympathisers. If you only only relied on Russian propaganda, you would absolutely think that Russia was winning easily here. If you only relied on Ukrainian propaganda, you would absolutely think that Ukraine was winning easily.

    As far as I can tell, the truth is right down the middle. Russia are making very modest gains, but sustaining high casualties for very little ground gained. Ukraine are also sustaining high losses, but are still holding on and giving as good as they are getting.

    I don't see either side making a significant breakthrough and unless a political agreement is signed, thousands on both sides will continue to die.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    This is how the Russians are raising morale at a military base near the border with Ukraine

    The plaques will be used to display photos of soldiers of the Russian Federation. The first photo shows a blackboard with a gray background resembling clouds of smoke. The inscription on it reads: "They betrayed their comrades by escaping from the battlefield", underneath there are 15 empty fields. According to the journalist, this plaque "will hang portraits of those who refuse to go to war against Ukraine".

    In the second photo there is a plaque with the inscription: "They heroically carry out tasks, defending their homeland". There are also 15 fields here, probably for photos. The plaque is red, with a five-pointed star - a symbol of the armed forces of Russia - and an image of a soldier in combat equipment.




  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Let them see it as a massive escalation??


    They are literally going from town to town committing massacres,they started the war,so can have no complaints on its trajectory....


    whatever russia can throw at nato,will cause less killing than the tens of thousands of ukraines who will die over this summer as they grind out a victory by sheer force of numbers and crushing opposition.....


    Their wars in chehyna will look like an exercise inrestraint by time the galway races come around



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,156 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Russia cares naught for the rules of the world and the global consensus organisations they signed up for

    They are more aligned with the Nazi's than anything else at this point and any organisation that has not thrown them out by this point should be ashamed of themselves and any business still dealing with them should be immediately boycotted

    Germans would do well to think every time they boil a kettle of water on their gas stove they are funding the killing and torture of innocent people

    It's really incredulous to think there is a war waging in Europe again and it's like every man for themselves (this is how world wars start) - this war could be stopped in an heartbeat if the sentiment was there. The US seem to be the only one doing anything of note to help them along with a few other countries who fear they are next, and that would likely be the reality if Ukraine falls.

    One voice from all the civilised countries in the world telling Russia to immediately retreat or face the retributions would solve this in an instant instead of spending billions to just drip feed ammunitions etc to Ukraine to try and defend itself. Germany in WWII was allowed the same grace to just keep pushing and pushing with no retaliation until they were at the point they had gone too far making it even harder to stop them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,427 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Do you not see the risk of it becoming an actual World War going that route?

    Do you not think a lot more will die if it becomes a World War or spreads beyond Ukraine's borders?

    Even Ukraine are no longer calling for a no fly zone, they have been given the tools needed to win the war, with even more NATO equipment arriving daily.

    Russia still do not have air superiority.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,135 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    I’m no defender of Putin but Ukrainians and Russians are they same ethnic group, largely so I don’t think “race” has anything to do with it, it’s just a pure power play. There’s a good bbc podcast series called Putin that explains a lot



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,427 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    I didn't post the map, so I don't know why you're asking me.

    I'll bet 100% it's not a Russian map source. Maybe you have another map that shows the gains by Russia in the past 24hrs?

    Or what major towns or cities have been taken by the Russians in the past 24 hours?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,411 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Yes indeed.

    The war must be going well when.

    1. Putin has taken direct control over the war and given responsibility of running the country to the PM.

    2. You are now using submarines to launch cruise missiles because your ships are either too **** or are extremely reluctant to go anywhere near land.


    Let's not mention your active troops in regions having shootouts with each other over spoils of war.

    Some level of winning going on its incredible..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,811 ✭✭✭threeball




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The Transnistrian army's latest exercise , they seem to be worse off than the Moldovans army




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    It has the same intimidation level as a 1970's Kiwi Hakka.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,898 ✭✭✭dasdog


    Maps are posted nightly by Militaryland. Also Jomini of the West on Twitter.




  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Russia cannot fight a war on several fronts,it is bogged down into a dogfight in eastern ukraine,which it will win by virtue of fact it has near zero skruples in doing so


    It looks to me,if russia wasnt able to launch air strikes,their activity would be near confined to its ground troops and certain minor episodes ala.car bombings/assinations carried out by kgb far from main theatre


    Ukraine like a kid asking for a pony for xmas,has given up asking for what it will not get as regards air assiistance and wouldnt turn it down,if offered tomorrow


    I think its wrong to sit on fence,when they have tools to stop so many massacres and war crimes occuring,and could turn the screw on russian advances


    ,nothing was learnt from sitting on hands for 5/6 years,while balkens raged,they will at some stage need to resort to tackling this issue head on,not just keep funneling guns/weapons to ukraine until it gives up/loses too many of its best troops



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,156 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    What? Scrap that, the Trump has come up Trumps



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Screenshot_20220429-233233_Chrome.jpg ac9ac081b5fa45048982bdbd4a88fccc.jpeg

    Something is missing from the top picture and it's very much important if your running into battle



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,036 ✭✭✭thomil


    Wait, what??? Is that for real? Not photoshopped??? That’s Monty Python level right there if this is real 🤣🤣

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    I counted 4 people carrying Aks minus any magazines ,seems to be genuine and not altered



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,156 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Exercises - would they be running around with magazines loaded?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Not at all. He can hit the other lads over the head with it instead. Hardy boys them Trans fellas/ladies.


    They even got Harry Potter cancelled



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




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