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Tyson Fury v Dillian Whyte - Wembley Stadium - April 23rd

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,677 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Didn’t at all take it serious or personal. I knew what you meant. Hence my Mozart quip. Was Just trying to drum up wee bit discussion. And seems it worked



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭dubrov


    If Fury retires now, it leaves the rest looking like also rans and PPV figures would collapse.

    I think he is one victory for going down as one of the greats as well.

    It's all setup for the AJ/Usyk winner to fight Fury in a massive retirement match.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,912 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Things change fast. When he beat Wlad it wasn’t in all that good a state and then Joshua really transcended the sport. Like him or not his profile led to mega ppv numbers. If Fury goes again some kinda drama will unfold. The cries will be coming for him to fight again anyhow for a few years. I could see him having a couple of years or 3 in him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,677 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    AJ transcended the sport?

    Where? How?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,342 ✭✭✭Bobby Baccala


    If you lived in some bubble where Fury is regarded as a genius and the only boxers that matter in the world are AJ/Fury/Wilder, you’d probably believe that too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,212 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    If Fury retires as the undefeated undisputed two time heavy weight champion I don’t think anyone can deny him a place among the all time greats, present company included 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,677 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Could say that after having one fight. It’s such an inherently dangerous sport.

    but if we want to find out who’s the best, and if the HWs want to establish their legacies as top dogs of their era, they need to fight to try get this!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,024 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    A dangerous sport......but he wants to fight Francis Ngannou!?




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,912 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    I meant more in terms of bringing the sport to a different audience aside from core boxing fans. His brand had appeal for that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,677 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Yes, that is what transcended the sport can entail.

    I just don’t at all see AJ as having done it to any real degree. Huge manufactured hype, and mainly confined to Britain.

    When I think of transcend I’d think of Ali’s 1960s emergence and beyond; also, when a 20 year old killer came into the global HW scene in late 1986 and onwards. Biggest name in global sports…



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,912 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Yea that’s fair enough I mean nowhere near that extent! I just mean from the position it was in before he came on the scene. Wlad and Vit didn’t have as much appeal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,479 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Can't see AJ becoming Mayor of London when he hangs up the gloves.

    A lot of the AJ hype is down to Sky and Eddie Hearn.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,677 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I guess, for me anyway, what is missing with AJ is aura. Aura is key to transcending. He never had that aura about him..



  • Registered Users Posts: 322 ✭✭Dunston




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,677 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Yep. Sure did…

    paid Eddie fair few bob through the years!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,814 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    AJ is the a bit like Pogba,

    As in he is commercially huge & a cross over start & because of that the causal fans think he most be amazing but proper fans see through the circus ,



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭BK5


    See on Twitter that Whyte met Joshua in London during the week and he was still moaning that he lost because Fury pushed him over!

    You fell Dillian because you were hit with a good shot and you were not fit enough to absorb it and anyway you landed on your big fat arse so you should have been grand 😊

    Whyte also tried to talk up a fight between himself and Joshua...yawn.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,814 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Lads it clear as day its all a ploy to make more cash & its absolutely brilliant ,

    The day Fury first spoke of retirement and his last fight was the day Whyte didn't turn up for the press conference ,

    It was a calculated move on the spot to help the fight sell out, He had to do something because of Whyte no show, Since i think Fury has realised if he keeps it going he can make even more money pout of his next fight ,Instead of Fury chasing the winner of AJ & Usyk they will be chasing him to prove they are better ,He can also demand more money to come out of "retirement"

    All makes perfect sense as really there is just one fight left for him and its the winner of that one, also adds to the whole "Fury story"



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