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Piers Morgan's uncensored

  • 24-04-2022 10:59am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,645 ✭✭✭✭


    Piers Morgan has a new show starting on Monday April 25th called Piers Morgan uncensored, It will be shown on Sky channel 526, Virginia media 627, Freeview channel 237 and Freesat channel 217. It will also be shown on Fox nation and Sky news Australia.

    While I'm not a huge fan of Morgan there's no denying he will get decent ratings and some huge names on his show which will be on weeknights at 8 o'clock.

    The first show is an interview with Donald Trump, unless you live under a rock I'm sure the majority of us have seen the promo for this where Trump allegedly walks out in a huff (depending on who you believe).

    Will anyone be watching? Is there anyone in particular who you would like to see Morgan interview? Will this be fair and Frank interviewing by Morgan (as he claimed in a BBC interview this morning) or will it be a mirror image of the Tucker Carlson method?

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Will I watch? Absolutely not. Not even for the leering value of two colossal a-holes fawning over each other. I think Morgan is the worst kind of right wing grifter: the one who can give it but can't take the smallest criticism or pushback. A bitter, callous man who showed the public how bitter he was for having an attractive woman ghost him.

    Just for his time at the helm of the tabloids should have sunk the man's career, yet here we are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,645 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    I agree with everyone you say, but there's no denying that he will attract some quality names to interview and has no fear of asking the hard questions of his guests. I think it will be part good interviews and part car crash TV, I suppose time will tell.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,543 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Looks like an attempt to imitate GB News though with a presenter people actually know. It'll be standard intellectual comfort food for tabloid readers who can't tolerate any sort of dissent.


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,290 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I've no desire to watch Morgan interview anyone. Thankfully it seems most people share a view similar and they chose to watch something else such as Richard Osman's House of Games...




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,213 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    There'll always be a big bump for new, highly publicised shows like this, and an even bigger bump when it comes to an interview with Trump and how they advertised that he storms off etc.

    It's a strong start in terms of ratings, but it'll be interesting to see what the ratings are like in three months when he's interviewing Jim Davidson for the third time.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Not comparable at all considering BBC is freeview.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭pjdarcy


    Two odious men talking nonsense but thankfully it won't be as portrayed on the Jimmy Kimmel show...




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Oh but I'm sure Morgan will have no trouble sharing with us his opinions on "woke" politics and why he, a wealthy cosseted white man, is best placed to tell us how the world works.

    I know I've said it already, but it bares repeating: this is a supposed titan of free-speech, anti-wokism and general alpha-male'ness who stormed off a set over tepid criticism for trashing a woman (20 years his junior) who wouldn't go on a date with him. Money truly doesn't buy you class.




  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands




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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Not what I'm saying but if that's what you wanna take away from a criticism of Morgan's unearned perspective, then fill your boots.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    This is the first I'm hearing of Talk TV. So it's TV for people who listen to Talk Sport?

    How is this any different to GB News?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    It isn't, but like GB News it's obviously hoping to glom onto the "silent majority" fallacy that there's this giant, simmering audience waiting for "anti woke" style ranting and nothing else of substance. It's just another echo chamber, albeit with a larger "star" celebrity at its centre than Nigel Farage. Morgan has at least shown himself a tiny bit more capable of pivoting to fluff (that was 90% of Good Morning Britain), so maybe he can make a better go of it)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,404 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    It is even available on SKy Ireland, I see no channel 526 on Sky

    Piers is a tell it like it is type of guy, you can't label him ''Woke or a snowflake, even though he'd promote mask wearing, and the vaccine when it was the thing to do, you can't call him a leftest as he promotes the right for everyone to speak as they wish, to have an opinion, like JK Rowling, you can't call him far right as he'll bash all those crazies who want to go back to 1942.

    So what is he?? He's what a lot of people should, live and let live and tell it like it is.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,092 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    So is Talk TV so that's not a reason at all .

    I'd agree in general terms though , "Light Entertainment" will always get more viewers than a news program and even more so a program on a dedicated "news channel"

    The fair comparisons would be with GB News , Sky News etc.

    400k isn't bad , it's more than Farage got for his interview with Trump a while back on GB News , but without rehashing the whole thread that we had on GB News a good while back , Dedicated News channels are never profitable and will never compete with "regular" channels in terms of viewership and revenues



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    TalkTV is freeview. Channel 237.

    Considering that five years ago, Piers Morgan interviewing Donald Trump on a Monday night would have easily absolutely annihilated everything else, this can only be considered a massive failure. The last big current affairs/political interview was Harry & Megan, which got 11m viewers.

    Be wary of the commentary about this being successful. It's a Murdoch propaganda Inc channel, so all of the Murdoch media will be fawning over it.



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    Certainly wouldn't call him one sided either. But having said that, I don't like him one bit, even though I agree with some of what he says.

    I think the "tell it like it is" definition is giving him a little too much credit. I still haven't forgiven him for his journalistic malpractices when in charge of the tabloids.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,258 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    "Live and let live"? Why won't he leave Meghan Markle alone then?

    In fairness to him, it is nice to see someone get under Trump's skin, if that promo is anything to go by.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,538 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    It is not (yet) cleared in Ireland, it may be in future. GB licences are no use here since Brexit.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Post number 4 doesn't exactly show his belief in Free Speech to extend to enabling commentary on YouTube videos; while his hounding of Megan Markle does not back up any claim he's live and let live; quite the opposite. Ghost him on a date and he'll try to destroy you it seems.

    His entire history in journalism, including hounding of some personalities like Ian Hislop would also show him a callous, morally bankrupt individual.



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,092 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    I doubt it's been added to the EPG in Ireland yet , but you could tune it in on FreeSat/SaorSat if you really wanted.

    In the UK it'll be on Sky etc. and again they can manually tune it in one FreeView or FreeSat.

    It's not a subscription service at all.

    Piers Morgan definitely has his own opinions and isn't afraid to state them regardless of the "side" it might be viewed from , but he absolutely is a "snowflake" - He is incredibly thin-skinned when it comes to criticism as evidenced by his multiple instances of "storming off" TV shows when he doesn't like the questions.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,543 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    No, he isn't. He's just enabler of the dumbing down of debate by peddling victimhood, outrage and intellectual comfort to conservatives. He's a journalist the same way WWE is a sport. I remember when he interview Trump just after he authorised a series of bombings in Syria. He said he hadn't time to bring it up but somehow found time to present him with a custom Arsenal jersey.

    He wouldn't be miles apart from someone I could respect but his sycophancy, his cowardice and his snowflake temperament make him just another outrage merchant.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,645 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Kinda looking forward to the Carlson interview just to watch two narcissistic idiots trying to outdo each other





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,805 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    Tucker Carlson and Piers Morgan verbally fellating each other. Must see television.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,211 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,543 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The wording of that tweet clearly indicates what this will be. Lots of moaning about apocryphal cancel culture, whining about perceived victimhood and no tough questions.

    You'd think people would get bored of such anodyne programming.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i just saw the opening credits on twitter and i think they were genuine? they are toe-curling.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    "I'm being cancelled!", screams millionaire celebrity with a global media presence and book-deals.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,543 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It's like the vacuous concept of the establishment. It's not about power and wealth, it's about culture and opinion. Morgan can't be the elite because he wails on and on about being cancelled despite possessing enormous wealth and influence.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭petronius


    Piers - good to someone of Irish extraction doing well!



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Morgan's show is flopping!

    Piers Morgan: Uncensored is struggling to keep up viewership, with an all-time low of just 10,000 tuning in on Wednesday night. 


    But despite managing to draw in nearly 400,000 viewers on his debut show, new data shows his latest episode attracted its lowest figures yet


    Last week, he was beaten by Nigel Farage when show figures fell to their lowest yet. Farage’s 7pm show peaked at 73,600 viewers, whereas Morgan’s 8pm slot only managed 58,800 viewers.

    It's also now reported that Piers Morgan is to take a 6-week break from TalkTV.

    It's not surprising that Morgan's show is flopping. Yes, he's a big name - but if the only things he discusses are Meghan Markle, gun control in the US, and transgender women (and Meghan Markle again), people will just get bored.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,645 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Yup, awful smell of defeat off him at this stage, just like GBEEBIES his show is the only one that pulls any sort of half decent ratings (in freefall though) and some shows don't even register as having viewers at all.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    As GB News and now this shows, the ceiling of audience available for 247 woke hysteria is far lower than the relative noise from the chief witchfinders among its adherents would have us believe. There's a degree of irony at play from those who'd rant about Echo Chambers.

    Morgan's race is run; he has a huge audience by ITV and blew it out the water when he went too far - in this case airing his obvious bitterness over a much younger woman ghosting him. At this stage I'd not be surprised if he ends up on something like Newsmaxx in a desperatd attempt to stay relevant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,213 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Another sign that it's less a "silent majority" and more a "very loud <100k or so".



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Or perhaps a sign that people who may agree with some aspects of what Piers Morgan might say don't need their agenda being pushed consistently. I couldn't watch him but would agree with him on certain topics. I prefer not to watch agenda driven television. Especially when it's done so obviously as per Farage and Morgan.

    I would consider myself to be more right than left (because we all have to pick a side these days) on a variety of issues, but that doesn't mean that I want to see a right wing agenda being pushed.

    I'd prefer to see a balance and more importantly, when it comes to news or fact based shows, I only want to see the truth. Not a spun version.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,213 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I agree. I meant "silent majority" in terms of the audience they are targetting, rather than the full population. The idea that most of the news channels are left-leaning or biased and therefore there's a silent majority crying out for news/opinion shows that are right-leaning and doesn't kowtow to PC culture (and instead strongly speaks out against it). The idea that there's a whole market for what is basically a Fox News UK.

    But there isn't. People may be politically or socially aligned with the content they're producing, but like you say, they don't want to watch it.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,092 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    It's hardly shocking to be honest.

    "News" channels don't make money and are tiny in terms of viewers in the overall scheme of things.

    Farage being the bigger pygmy when compared to Morgan for viewers isn't really much of a victory.

    Neither channel will be making money for their backers any time soon.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    I think as far as Farage and P. Morgan are concerned, the silent majority have spoken - silently.

    They do not want their message - and certainly not 24/7.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I agree with this.

    I would actually find myself in alignment with much, if not most, of what Morgan comes out with. But that doesn't mean that I find it entertaining to watch. I've watched a couple of episodes of Morgan and I just cannot watch it - despite agreeing with what he says.

    I'd rather see diversity of opinion, diversity of subject matter etc. Yes, I tilt to the political right but that doesn't mean I actively seek monotony.

    If I, as someone who aligns with Morgan, finds it boring, then what chance has he got?

    And TalkTV have done a great job with the set and the social media and so on; it's far, far better than what GB News came out with.

    But I'd rather watch GB News despite that, because substance isn't measured by how good graphics are or by how many technical glitches exist. Many people on social media are saying the same thing, and the statistics are backing this up.

    Remember, once upon a time, Farage earned 150,000 views for his programme. These days it oscillates around 75-90,000 views, give or take.

    Morgan, a much more prominent "celebrity" than Farage, is already at 10,000 after just a couple of episodes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,404 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Funny time to air it, competing with Corrie, or Emmerdale, or Eastenders ,

    He'd be better off at 10 pm, not 8pm



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    The immediately prior post to yours hasn't really aged that well; not in the mere 5 months since it was posted. A degree of "going strength to strength" tea-leaves optimism going on, that hasn't panned out at all.

    Morgan, a much more prominent "celebrity" than Farage, is already at 10,000 after just a couple of episodes.

    Snort. The time of the media demagogue really seems on the way out. Morgan might have done well to curb his insecurity over Megan Markle and kept that cushy number on Morning TV, where he could make the occasional "anti woke" comment for some brief, viral relevancy.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,543 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    He's competing with social media though so he has to take extreme positions to do that. That means racist whining about the UK's German royal family having a non-white person. It's disgusting but people can get that any time, any place on social media. Waiting for a specific time for Morgan's rants and victimhood narratives makes no sense as we're seeing in the figures.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,092 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


     Morgan might have done well to curb his insecurity over Megan Markle and kept that cushy number on Morning TV, where he could make the occasional "anti woke" comment for some brief, viral relevancy.

    That was always the issue with Piers Morgan - 95%+ of what he said and did on ITV etc. was standard issue bland vanilla daytime TV fluff , and that is what got the advertisers and paid the bills.

    Every now and again he'd do something "controversial" and it would spike Social media activity etc.

    He and others came to believe that it was the controversy that people wanted and not the other 95% - It isn't and it never was.

    Absolutely no one wants to listen to endless hours of whinging, about anything.

    It's just crushingly boring and will never have anything more than a tiny fringe audience , with next to no revenue generation ability.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,543 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I call it the "Joey from Friends" problem. Joey worked because he was one sixth of an ensemble cast. The spinoff failed because it was just too much of him with no counterweight or counterfoil.

    This is the same. When Piers would say something outrageous on GMB, he'd get chided by Susanna Reid or someone else (I only got to see it at my local gym with no sound) with the effect being that he's spice it up without going overboard. Now that he has no constraints, people get bored. There's no change in tempo, no dynamic and no variety. It's just Morgan going on and on and on about woke being tyrannt, PC going mad, Megan Markle being the worst human being in existance, etc, etc, etc. Viewers might agree with him, sure but what he's peddling is news entertainment, not news itself. Without the latter component, it's dead on arrival.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,213 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Plus he started off with an interview with Trump, with promos making it look really confrontational, Trump storming off etc.

    About 2 weeks later his biggest guest was Anne Robinson.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,538 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    It's been dropped in Australia. The UK arm can't afford to keep it going without the foreign sales, so it's days are likely numbered. Ask probably are TalkTVs entirely after having spent so much on him



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    And the thing is, Morgan has an audience - it's just not a very big one and as someone else remarked already the whole "Silent Majority" fallacy has been well & truly blown out of the water. It's just a noisy, boring subset of similar folk who get disproportionately angry about pronouns or any tacit suggestion Western history was a bit shít for those on the receiving end of things. Same with Boards really.

    Problem for Morgan now is, he's too old and too irrelevant to pivot to the level he should be operating at: that of YouTube or a podcast. But there, he'd immediately find himself trying to take chunks out of preexisting, successful anti-woke hysteria already operating as a sub-culture within the media. And like many loud bullies, Morgan strikes as too cowardly to take a change to swim at the right depth. He's too use to fooling himself he's an Important Man of Culture; doubtless he'd see a YouTube channel as beneath him, being a newspaper man probably just scared of the digital indiustry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Watched it in the background on youtube when watching the soccer just out of curiosity.

    Piers, Richard Tice , a lawyer who I didn't recognize, Louse fecking Mensch on all to to give Truss a massive kicking.

    Segment also about Nurse pay and Assange's wife on and depressingly Andrew Tate which I swerved.

    It wasn't a right wing safe space to be fair but it just felt relatively pointless unfortunately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,355 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    When ordinary Brits realise they've been well and truly been had, Richard Tice is one chap that the hooded torch bearers will come looking for.



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