French Pres thread -2022

I’d be surprised if they’re closer than 10 points difference. Le Pen was fairly useless in the debate. She had prepared but just couldn’t cope off script. Macron knew his stuff and could adapt as he went along.

Is it a bit of a case of relying on low turnout for her if there is a lot of apathy in France towards the politicians at the moment?

The number 1 problem with France is the population always wants their cake and to eat it too. We want to work 35 hours, have lots of holidays, free healthcare and retire at 60. And if you put measures in place to finance all that, then we’ll strike!

Whatever about the rest of it retiring at 60 in this day and age is ridiculous. Like most retirement ages it was probably set at a time when the average lifespan wasn't much more than that and the majority of the population were doing physical work. Raising retirement ages is a bit like not opposing new housing - there's no political incentive to do it even though it is the sensible thing to do to stave off long term problems.

I know that elections are always important but this the most important French presidential election in a while imo given the consequences should LePen win which wouldn’t be good for France or Europe. And I know the opinion polls have Macron ahead but brexit and Trump showed that opinion polls can be wrong.

58 vs 42 roughly. Not close. A leopard doesn’t change its spots and a lot of French just don’t trust Le Pen rather than fully support Macron.

Both far left and far right candidates are anti EU. It would be interesting to see a radical pro EU candidate in the final round. Personally I still think Hollande got a rough deal and he was about as close to what I am describing.

It would just be the opposite of today where all the right and centre right line up to stop Melenchon.

I'm left and I wouldn't get behind Melenchon vs Macron. Too many populist BS policies in with the good ones

No Mitterrand and Chiraz both did it too but he is the first to also have a parliamentary majority whereas the other 2 lads blamed their problems on a legislative block.

Just watching France 24 and a national rally MEP compared Le Pen to general De Gaulle. That’s a big claim.

I wasn’t following this very closely, I assumed Macron was going to win comfortably and the media were playing up Le Pen’s chances like they always do, seems like that is what’s happened again.

Its a stupid system in fairness. I understand why the old parliamentary system didn't work in a batsht political landscape like France but surely a straight up single vote is better than this 2 round thing

Absolutely delighted the Emmaneul MC Cron is back in and that wicked witch Le pen did not get into power. We have all been through enough the last decade with that other idiot who was in Power in America who's names I shall not mention as he does not deserve his name mentioned but basically he was a Clown with a Capital C. She would have took Franch out of the Euro and made all out futures very uncertain but thankfully she did not get into Power so good news good to hear and see.