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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,325 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    And in each case the army either stood by the protestors or kept out of their way. Without the military any revolution in Russia is highly unlikely to succeed.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,448 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Apparently this clip was from a few weeks ago - it got posted all over social media yesterday for some reason.



  • Posts: 25,917 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I certainly wasn't saying they were innovation free, but when you consider the might and resources, the downward pressure from above meant that one could argue they didn't advance as much as they should. Russia itself being, or meant to be, the absolute power house yet quite a bit of the successful brands were from smaller countries, where they had had exposure to the West and likely still could have more integration than a factory in the Urals. The things designed and built 40/50 years ago that were broken from the start but still live on with tape and bandages, great on the individual level in some cases but not a way to run a country and the food shortages they experienced won't have had non-zero contribution from the poor technology, relatively speaking, that they "enjoyed". Great, in some theoretical doomsday scenario the Russian farmer will be able to get his 4mph tractor going. Meanwhile US and Europe were producing food surpluses. Bodging and improvising are brilliant and necessary but it's the level above that where innovation really suffered.

    The atomic bomb, yeah the yanks had help (Brits really fucked themselves on that as well 😅) but was the Russia effort really that impressive? Again, considering the might behind them it took a while and it was mostly copied/stolen technology. Looking now at the shithole countries that have also managed it kinda lowers the prestige a little too. :P

    This isn't to denigrate Russian people as not being able to innovate, they've managed it in areas like tech and finance where barriers to entry are much lower.

    But we've seen in this war (and in history as it happens) that there's a tendency to over-estimate Russia, to assume they must have whatever (we know) the yanks have, and at the same scale and reliability.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,108 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    "From September 1, the "Russian language" in schools should be replaced by other disciplines

    Commissioner for the protection of the state language Taras Kremin believes that from the new academic year the subject "Russian language" in schools should be replaced with other disciplines.

    "Regarding the study of such a discipline in schools as the "Russian language", it is necessary to consider the possibility of replacing this subject with others. I share the warnings of the Minister of Education and Science, as well as the Educational Ombudsman, that by the end of this academic year, Russian teachers, if they have not taught anything else, can be sent to a simple one. And from September 1, this discipline should be replaced by others, increasing the share of studying other important subjects, namely: "History of Ukraine", "Ukrainian Language", "Ukrainian Literature", "Mathematics" and "English", the press service of the Ombudsman quotes Kremin as saying.

    The Commissioner also stressed the importance of reviewing the curriculum for "foreign literature", because it still pays great attention to the study of Russian writers."

    It just sheets home how Russia has lost any possibility of a remotely civil relationship with Ukraine for at least a generation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭shillyshilly


    I heard he's due to have a heart attack out a 10th floor window....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭shillyshilly


    They don't exactly work transponders in the dark, even when "going tactical"

    ADSB (Mode S extended squitter) is not fully required by tactical aircraft (although there is a mandate that they "should")

    They can work simple Mode S, which doesn't broadcast Lat/Long info, so can't be plotted to tracking sites, but keeps within guidelines for mode S requirements...

    Then you go back to basic secondary radar, mode A and C, which is squawk and height info... you can track these too with widely available software and multilateration servers....

    After that, it's tactical modes, there is discussion that the techniques used for receiving mode A & C can be used to track set frequency IFF transponders.... you can multi lat it, but you won't get an ID (as it's usually encrypted)...

    Most new IFF systems have frequency hopping in them also.

    What the tracking sites do, is multilat aircraft before they go "tactical" and put 2 and 2 together ....Tactical IFF is usually managed by AWACS.

    So when they're up along the boarder, there's a good chance there is suspect Russian activity or managing NATO assets in Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,695 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Plus, post-WWII the amount of technology theft by the Soviets was pretty large. Remember the Rosenbergs?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,108 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    "The filtering procedure has gained maximum momentum. In filtration camps and points, 100% of men, after standard filtration bullying (interrogation, checking gadgets, examining the body), are separated from others and conduct separate interrogations, including the instigation of the shooting. In general, we can say that 5-10% does not pass filtration and after that are exported to Dokuchayevsk and Donetsk. The fate is not known, we are working.

    ❗️ In the city, the occupiers report that from April 18, it is planned to finally close not only the city to entry/ exit for everyone, but also a ban on moving around the districts for a week. At this time, all the men remaining in the city will be filtered. In order to do this, they will be moved to Novoazovsk."

    This very worrying filtration has been reported to be happening elsewhere as well, with grounds for failing including being employed in civil administration or government, as well as the more obvious of a military connection.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,037 ✭✭✭jmreire


    The difference between Putin and Ghadaffi, was the sheer nr's of the population who wanted him gone, and who were prepared to die to get rid of him. So far, what ever the level of anti-Putin sentiment that exists presently in Russia, Putin has managed to suppress it. Not to mention the Nrs of Russians who fervently believe in him, ( and there are many ) so whatever rumblings are there now, they will have to get much worse before any changes will take place.



  • Posts: 7,946 [Deleted User]


    Ultimately protests and rebellions, obviously, can get large, but it's not how they start off. They grow from smaller units, and this is where Putin stops them.

    Russians effectively live in a well organised police state, which is something they are quite good at still. It's probably the longest lived material police state currently in existence, even older than China. They didn't achieve that with kid gloves.



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  • Posts: 7,946 [Deleted User]


    Excellent, great to see. I joked about similar earlier, although some didn't get it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭goldenmick



    The courage and conviction of the people of Ukraine has been truly magnificent and will be a permanent fixture in history books long after Putin has gone.... who himself will only be remembered as the tyrant who used threats to control his own people and against the world, and callously terminated tens of thousands of lives and instigated barbarity against civilians the like of which we never believed could happen again.

    The plight and suffering of so many millions of ordinary people has touched the hearts of many, including myself, and we all hope and pray for a quick end to this needless and senseless tragedy.

    I've penned some poetic stuff many years ago, and the indomitable spirit of Ukraine and its people have inspired me to turn my hand one more time to verse, in tribute to Ukraine:


    The A - Z of War


    Across the battle fields they roam

    Brave men fighting for their home

    Chose to fight and stand their ground

    Dutiful and honour bound

    Each one is some mothers son

    Freedom fighting with their gun

    Giving up their lives each day 

    Hoping to succeed they pray

    Invaders seek to take their land 

    Just as those before had planned

    Killing all who you once knew  

    Looting raping torture too

    Mighty spirit all the time  

    Now cut down within their prime

    Once they lived a life so free 

    Proud with wife and family 

    Quiver now their hearts no more

    Rendered lifeless on the floor

    Soldiers souls now wander free

    Together in eternity

    United still across the land 

    Valiant warriors who still stand

    Wondrous sight for we all know

    Xenophobia and the Russian foe

    Yet courage thrives and it stands tall

    Zelensky's heroes one and all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    They should start teaching Irish instead.

    Bring back Peig. To Ukraine



  • Posts: 7,946 [Deleted User]


    Let's leave the war crimes to the Russians... 😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,822 ✭✭✭threeball


    You can't hold power like he has without a boogeyman to blame. What would they need him for if there was no external threat and why is all this money being spent on military if not to protect us from the boogeyman.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,695 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    The RCC ruined 'Peig.' The editors took out all her bawdy humor and the result was the dreary tome that inflicted hatred of Irish onto generations of students. Really too bad, Peig was supposed to be quite the character IRL.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Slava Peig



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭GM228


    I never though Russia were ones to try to legitimately justify their actions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,108 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui



    Running out of pejoratives that are negative enough to curse these two legged filth with.

    Stretchmarks= tripwires i'd think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭GM228


    Most NATO assets work with their transponders on, just specific one's don't.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Probably to their own population. It gives some plausible deniability. That's all they need



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,898 ✭✭✭dasdog


    Some of the soft toys being made - https://toys-kopitsa.com.ua/

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭GM228


    Black Hawks do show up on FR24 from time to time, there are other better ways of tracking military aircraft, again have never seen any cross over Ukrainian borders since the war started though some have flown pretty close.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭GM228


    The problem is no one can share any evidence to back up their claims that Global Hawks or Black Hawks etc have flown into Ukrainian airspace, saying "I've seen them" type of comments is not enough, tell us when these flights have happened - there are ways of then verifying if true.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭GM228




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭GM228


    Kharkiv earlier today apparently, fair play to that medic staying put (and obviously whoever was filming) as everyone else scrambles, the medic attending the person on the left wasn't so brave:-




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,898 ✭✭✭dasdog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    My village is twenty minutes from where the US military and NATO forces are based outside the two main base of rzeszow and przymish.

    Canadian forces to arrive next week to assist with helping the refugees.

    It doesn't bother me if you don't believe if they fly in or not.

    We see them almost daily it's a bit of a running joke locally that we don't see them at all because the powers that be say they are not flying into the Ukraine.

    Sometimes there so low you swear they would blow the roofs of our houses.

    Also frequently see a polish medivac helicopter fly in and out even though the polish ministry of defence denying that they are doing any.


    I have nothing to gain by telling lies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,547 ✭✭✭✭Alun




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Addmagnet




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