Who Watches the Watchmen (Our Chit Chat Thread)

For me that on leather is a boring old mans gold watch .On the presidential bracelet it’s iconic.

it really is .only a few years ago I would have said there is no way I’m spending a few thousand on one watch.I remember getting my Quartz tag heuer and thinking why would I ever need anything more..Seems a ridiculous attitude now but It’s just us maturing as collectors and learning about the hobby.

it’s a shame though that so many collectors look down on cheaper watches as they progress into the move expensive stuff,It’s almost as if they think now they have high end stuff they can’t appreciate cheaper watches.But when you look at some well known collectors like john Mayer they always have an appreciation for their timex & g shocks even though they are at the extreme high end of collecting.

I think Rolex at rrp are worth every penny they are just not worth market prices but I don’t think any one buying watches for the watch only are buying Rolex at the moment , madness if they are as you say when you look at the options available.I would assume most Rolex buyers at the moment are there for the hype and watches like you’ve listed wouldn’t satisfy the “look at my flash watch “ gang

They are at RRP. Only because of the grey market price.

At 8-9k you don’t get a lot really for your money other than residual value when you look at it objectively beside many other watches using precious metal at that price point and hand finishing on components etc.

Those watches also don’t pass “”tomorrows price is not todays price” test as you can only buy a watch if it can be sold for 10-20 percent profit next year.

why wouldn’t he appreciate his seikos ? The zero west crap is obviously being plugged for reward but it’s not like he’s singing the praises of every low value watch just to be seen as one of the lads.Seiko is one of the most accomplished watch brands in the world ,why wouldn’t he appreciate them?it might be one of the most honest things about him.

I’m not agreeing or disagreeing re Mayer as I just used him as an example but,,,,if you view him as a salesman of the brand’s he’s associated with ,does that not rule out all brands ? Because he wears g shocks you think he’s flogging them , so does the same not apply to his other brands ? Or is it just because the g shock is a low price item ?

Look we all move on in the collecting game. It's fun to nostalgia about the cheap watches of the early times and how relitivly good they are...the law of diminishing returns something only the high end collectors appreciates. But I am cynical. I appreciate a Casio, but not as much as a Rolex. To say otherwise is to say you are blind, stupid or both. Once you are super high end like Mayer you can appreciate anything you want..he earned that right. But those that no only the low end are not really qualified to give opinion on the high end. It's the whole punching up or down thing.

Like wibbs says Mayer has skin oh selling aspiration to the low end collector, and that's why I think it's disingenuous and patronising. Kinds of " look you entire collection is nothing to me...it's a spare link for my patek, so keeping it around as armour to not being called a snob means absoutly nothing to me...your collection is nothing to me." That's stinks really doesn't it.

Agree 100 percent that you in general get a better finish and better bang for buck with Omega. Especially second hand.

I have a serious horn for the below. If my Ming sells I may roll.

Solid gold including deployant. Retrograde second complication which is just **** cool. And Breguet level finishing front and back. All for 1/3 of a grey market Pepsi **** lol.

I doubt lwc wears the sk007 for anything other than mowing the lawn

Look maybe so but it’s an iconic watch in its own right and I assumed that’s why he would of had one.

not really sure what we are debating here

thats a sure sign of it being debated too long , point taken !

point generally is once what you have goes up in horological terms stuff that you previously thought was ok tends to diminish.

I’m obviously not gone up the ladder far enough so .I do hope that when I purchase a higher end piece that it doesn’t ruin my love for anything below that point. That feels like it would take the fun out of it for me. When you talk to car collectors it’s very usual for them to have high end and low value cars all in the same Collection.Each one being there for its own reason .A friend of mine collects art and has stuff from a couple thousand in value to one piece just under €100k .He has a story about every single piece and tells each story passionately regardless of the cost .I’m sure the €100k one means a lot more to him but he appreciates them all. I don’t see why collecting watches should be different.

For now what’s in my collection is all rotated through be it €200 watch or a few thousand .