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Price of a pint !

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  • Subscribers Posts: 41,830 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Not a hope would i pay that. I'm not a tourist though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,956 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Not even if it came in a gold goblet served by a topless comely maiden.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Prices going up everywhere too.

    Guinness in my local increased three times since Covid: E4.50 and now it's E5. E5.20 plus in the city centre(Galway)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    With Minimum Unit Pricing on off sales and pints (in Dublin City Centre) being insanely high having a beer is fast becoming an expensive luxury



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭thefallingman


    5.50 in rathmines



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    The article cited in the OP reappears in the Indo every few months. Lazy journalism bordering on clickbait.

    It's utterly irrelevant what a pint costs in Temple Bar. Go in to a pub there most nights, especially when there's trad on, and it's full of tourists who buy one pint all night. The pub has to make money off these guys somehow.

    So to answer the OP's question, no, no one is paying 9 euro a point.

    I was in Paris during the week, you're looking at 15 euro a pint. That's as relevant to most Irish pubs as the OP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    Alot more reasonable. Havent been to never mind drank in Rathmines for years



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    Maybe they only buy one pint cause its so feckon expensive and they think fook that Im nursing this for the night 😃





  • Pints of scutter served up in the temple bar aswell. Pure unfriendly false tourist trap.

    I brought a work colleague there and paid 36 euro for 2 pints and 2 whiskey and Jameson's.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    MUP means you can't legally sell a 4.5% pint for less than €2.02 so it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do the prices in pubs.

    Weaker beers would have a lower minimum price as it's 10c/g of alcohol, an amount that's just below the normal price for brand name beers in supermarkets. MUP really only increased prices for supermarket own brands , every other price increase is gouging.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    Temple Bar caters for a certain market not guys who skull three pints an hour huge overheads in these pubs and with a lot of their customers drinking one or two pints its no surprise they are mad money . The pubs do not want the people who will complain about the price so its a good way to keep them away .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    9 is standard for me here in NZ. $11 +/- for a 425ml "pint" so $14.70 for an actual pint or 9.20 EUR



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    I've been looking at home brewing lately. Something I always had an interest in doing. Bought a bucket from amazon the other day actually. Wouldn't be surprised to see more people getting in to it now too with insane prices. Aldi / Lidl 2 liter cider used to be 3.80 and over 8 euro now.

    If the price of a pint goes up people will drink at home. If the price goes up in off-licenses - which many spirits or cider have - people will find an alternative.



  • Registered Users Posts: 685 ✭✭✭TallGlass2


    I think what the poster ment is MUP is making even drinks at home expensive, MUP was designed under the guise of health (really it was to drive people back to the pubs under it all), the pubs in responde by increasing the prices of on sales drinks and yet I also still find off sales drink prices in the supermarkets cheaper (the big bad supermarkets).

    Pub I drink in went from about 4.80 pre pandemic to now 5.30 for a Guniness, I know its only 50c in the grand scheme of things, but I dunno going out regularlly and paying over 5€ for one drink is to me a bit over the top, (I also happen to find people paying 3/4€ for one coffee a fairly pricey thing people seem to do) if I had 5/6 that's 25/30€.

    Like I do not expect the drink for free and understand it is a bussiness at the end of the day, I just fell as a consumer overall I feel everyone is out to price gouge you at this stage, via goverment levies/taxies (eg MUP, Sugar Tax), shrinkifaction/less product or quaility from manufactuer for same price or a higher price. Then getting told by goverment to 'shop around', 'shower less' and generally been told to stop moaning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    MUP was cleared in 2018. It was only implemented recently but the bill was passed in 2018. The reason for MUP is for health reasons. Irish people drink too much and binge drinking is a huge issue. The MUP was introduced after all by the Minister for Health.

    The price of a pint in a pub has increased because

    1. Electricity, heating etc have all gone up
    2. rents have increased
    3. Staff are harder to find
    4. Staff want to be paid more
    5. Companies have debt after covid and trying to clear them off

    I see posts all over the web about people demanding wage increases etc etc, they want the minimum wage increased and then a few mins later are complaining about the cost of everything has gone up. Both are tied together



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,717 ✭✭✭✭Geuze



    Hughes in Woodquay, Galway city was 4.40 for Guinness pre-COVID. It is now 4.70.

    In Oranmore, the price increased from 4.40 to 4.60 now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,717 ✭✭✭✭Geuze



    Prices in Ireland are the highest in the EU, 40% above the EU average.

    Labour costs are 9th in the EU.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,572 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    The other posters point was that MUP has made beer more expensive as well as pub increases.

    MUP affects the price of beer by introducing a false floor in the market below which the various strengths of beer may not be sold.

    It outlaws any price promotions which reduce the price below the MUP mandated level.

    For instance this week last year in the lead up to Easter you could have purchased a case of mainstream brand 4.3% beer (24x50cl cans) for €20 - €24.

    At the moment the same case will cost a minimum of €40.80.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,542 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    No.

    Things are getting out of control.

    Problem with this type of crap is that these prices won't go down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    We are the 6th highest minimum wage

    We are also an island on the edge of Europe with a very small market so yes it costs more to transport goods to ireland than a country in mainland Europe

    I can start listing out all the reasons it makes sense

    It seems some people want huge wages but everyone else to earn a pittance



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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭buried


    It will just come to the stage people will be no longer willing to pay for these outlandish prices. It's happening already, it's even happening in the essential purchase sector, never mind non-essential sectors like booze and processed foodstuffs, and this will just increase.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭enricoh


    E5.20 for Guinness now in my local in Meath. A few punters have gone on strike over it apparently- as one lad was saying they should have left it at a fiver n put up the shorts as most lads hit the shorts after a few pints n by then the price is irrelevant!

    I reckon it'll go like england and heaps of pubs in prime locations going for apartments.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,572 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    You are correct that the rationale put forward for introducing MUP was public health.

    However it is worth pointing out that many Irish people don't drink too much and they are forced to pay more for their beer by MUP.

    The Government interference in the market means they have to pay extra to enjoy a drink in their own home and now they pay extra if they go for a night out.

    Neither the few cans a week at home or couple of pints in the pub are health issues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    You should have complained in 2018 when the bill was passed so

    Ignoring the fact Ireland has huge issues with alcohol is a something the government doesn't have the luxury of doing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,542 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    MUP isn't going to have any impact on the nation's health. That shit isn't fooling anyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭laoisgem


    Does anyone know where the MUP surplus is being spent? Genuine question. You would hope treatment centres but I highly doubt that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,884 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Prices gone up in all the places I frequent from time to time

    Anything from €5-€6.20

    €5.10 is a pretty annoying price esp if you never have many coppers



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    It's a minimum price. It's not a tax increase. It's not an excise duty increase. The government gets nothing. Not a single cent.


    Technically there's more VAT but that's likely to be offset by reduced spending on other "luxuries"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭shmeee


    €4.90 for Birra Moretti is underpriced and the publican is only doing himself there now. It's a more expensive than other lagers. With price increases it's priced about €5.50 - €6.00 locally here now (Midlands). Guinness at €4.80, Heineken/Coors etc €5.20.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Do the prices still go up after a certain time in the evening or am I imagining that even having been a thing in Temple Bar? Been years since I was there for a beer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,133 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    It goes to the retailer. Government don't take it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,884 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    God bless Wetherspoons even if they are all mostly soulless kips

    We're getting one here in Waterford in a few weeks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭laoisgem


    That's even more mind boggling so. Was it the vintners association that looked for it or how did it come about? sorry if I'm derailing the thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,542 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I'd happily drink with a few friends in a "soulless kip" if the price of a pint is reasonable. "Atmosphere" don't mean crap if you can all have a laugh or a conversation together.

    To hell with all these price gouging pricks, who think that just because their boozer has some old seats they can up the price to whatever they feel like that week and they all upped their prices after Covid to take advantage of people's excitement at being able to go out again after two years of lockdowns.

    Bit it will get to a point where people will just not take it any more, and more boozers will shut up shop for good...and ya know what...fuck em.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,572 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    It was lobbied for by groups like Alcohol Action Ireland and representative bodies for the pub and off licence industries including LVA (Dublin pubs), VFI (country pubs) and National Off Licence Association.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,572 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I did and for some years before 2018 but sadly to no avail.

    Along with all the other drinkers in Ireland who enjoy a drink in the comfort of their own homes I was stitched up from the start.

    MUP uniquely had 100% support from all parties in the Dail.

    Think about that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭enricoh


    My niece had a coffee from Starbucks with her the other day, I asked how much -e6.50!

    I said fair play to them getting suckers to pay it, same goes for the publicans. I paid e50 for 5 long necks 10 years ago in a pub in Milan. I gave up complaining about prices back here after it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,542 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    €6.50 for a coffee?

    Fuckin hell. There's no bloody way that that's anything but simply taking the piss.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    Lot's of bills get 100%, then when people find out about it, or mood changes then the opposition parties all bolt and try to make out they never voted for it. That's the joys of politics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,572 ✭✭✭✭elperello



    100% of them voted to make drink artificially more expensive and give the money to the drinks trade.

    Great what good lobbying can do.

    Not much joy for someone like me who drinks sensibly but ends up being penalised because "Ireland" has a drink problem.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,863 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    How much has your sensible drinking gone up by?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,572 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I think we may be at cross purposes.

    I thought you were asking was I drinking more but reading it again I think you were asking how much of my drink has gone up in price.

    The answer to that is few hundred a year.

    I'll do a proper tot tomorrow and get back to you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    Would you go away and do some research. For God sake, it has NOTHING to do with transporting goods to a very small market on the edge of Europe.

    Jesus Christ, such horsesh*t has been posted once before and the poster still hasn't come out of hiding from sheer embarrassment.

    It's tax and Bullshi*t is the reason we were already highest in EU, and now more Bullsh*t.

    McEntee just announced the nightclubs are going to stay open until 6am. Who's fecking health is that watching? The youngest sections of drinkers? The ones who are starting out in life and discovering alcohol etc.. They see the high prices in the off licences, and think it is just as costly as going to the pub, socialise, get drunk, and stay drinking until 6am.

    How is that looking after anyone's health?

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    I was in Malahide on Sunday evening, and it was €5.40 in the bar for a pint of Guinness. All the bars out that way have it sewn up. None of them great, Gibneys is a bit of a kip, and the pints in there are the most expensive.

    A pint of beer in the lounge of any of them is apparently €6.80. I won't be visiting there for a while.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,542 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    €6.80 for a Guinness? In Malahide?

    Jesus Christ.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    Not sure about Guinness in lounge, sorry. I meant lager. I didn't go into any lounge, just had two pints in bar meeting somebody. I was told it is €6.80 for a lager and I think he said 10 cents less for a Guiness, but he was talking about Gibneys, and apparently they have a 3 or 4 tier price structure, so I got a bit confused/didn't care enough to pay much attention. They have a bar, a lounge, and an upstairs all on different prices and some bar out the back that can be different or something. Not sure. I was across the road, and it was pretty empty and pricey too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,717 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Why or how would ALDI, Tesco, Dunnes Stores build treatment centres?

    MUP is not a tax, it is a price floor, the extra revenue accrues to the supplier and seller



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,717 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    People say tax is the reason for high prices here.

    Excise on beer is lower here than in the UK, or close, depending on the exchange rate.

    Don't fall for the excuses from the brewers and publicans.


    Diageo make Guinness in Dublin, and charge less for it in NI, than in Dublin.

    Even though it has to be transported to NI, and even though the excise is similar.

    It is due to a lack of competition between brewers.


    Lots of brewers in the UK, some of whom compete on price.

    We have more breweries here now, but the new microbrewers do not compete on price in the on-trade (they do for the own-brand in ALDI and Lidl).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,717 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    JD Wetherspoon charge 3.55 for stout in central Dublin.

    They face the same / similar overheads as other pub chains.

    Yet they charge much less, why or how?

    (1) They buy the beverages at a lower cost, that is a big part of it. They pass on the bulk purchase discount, whereas the Irish chains don't.

    (2) They make lower profits.

    A business plan for a new Dublin pub in the Sunday Times envisages a 30% net margin.

    Spoons make under 10% net margin.



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