Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Good response 🙄

"Putin has also taken to bathing in the blood extracted from severed deer antlers as an alternative therapy"

I guess they can publish just about anything these days.

Eventually, yes.

Explain Eventually?

So are we talking seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, years, decades, centuries? This would be really important for the people in present day Ukraine who are alive that they know this?

Or are you unsure like everything else you have said here?

You do know that Europe is still buying oil and gas from Russia each day so until that is completely stopped sanctions alone won't stop Russia.

No not at all, the substance was exactly what I had described. But no matter.

So the west is basically fighting with both hands tied behind their backs. None the less, Putin is still fighting a losing battle. Now if he were to use nuclear weapons, and the gloves would come off.....

The west are fighting anyway with their hands tied behind their back. Putin hasn't lost this war until the war is over and his troops are forced to pull out. The west haven't made it difficult for him to do this so far. And if Putin used nuclear weapons, NATO would have to study their rule book before responding and then may have to have some type of unanimous decision to retailate within the organisation before anything could be done. They are a joke.

It's only one step removed from going to a clinic in Mexico and paying a bomb to get regular and frequent coffee enemas, which I assure you is a real thing desperate cancer sufferers do. The desperation from the realization of imminent death can get quite extreme. Steve Jobs went for the loon alternative cancer cures when he was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer.

So you don't know exactly if the sanctions will work? Because if you did you be able to pencil the exact moment they would affect Russia.

Why doesn't NATO just provide a no fly zone and when the Russians complain about it just deny they are doing it repeatedly and say the Russians are bombing themselves

I take it that's Russia's way of telling us the location of their next Bucha:-

The idea that Ukraine would need to fake atrocity after atrocity in order to make the Putin regime "look bad" is nonsensical. Guess what, you bunch of murderous war criminals....you already look bad to the civilised world, Ukraine doesn't need to do anything.

Thank you, it was a lot worse than I described, I have left out a lot. But you have gone from 'spring day loving keyboard warrior' straight to 'you're still wrong'.

I'm repeating myself, but I think it bears repeating; Kasparov, a former Russian foreign minister, The parliament of Latvia and the Polish government - all of which have more ar stake than you or I and are far better aquainted with all things Russian/Putin than you or I - all have one thing in common; they think Putin will not start WW3 if the west calls his bluff and intervenes in Ukraine.

'The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything.' - Albert Einstein

'he who dares, wins'

'he who hesitates is lost'

“It is hard to fail, but it is worse never to have tried to succeed.” ― Theodore Roosevelt

“What would life be if we had no courage to attempt anything?” ― Vincent Van Gogh

“A person may cause evil to others not only by his actions but by his inaction, and in either case he is justly accountable to them for the injury.” ― John Stuart Mill

“Want of foresight, unwillingness to act when action would be simple and effective, lack of clear thinking, confusion of counsel until the emergency comes, until self-preservation strikes its jarring gong - these are the features which constitute the endless repetition of history.” ― Winston S. Churchill

“Pessimism becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy; it reproduces itself by crippling our willingness to act.” ― Howard Zinn

“You have only to rest in inaction and things will transform themselves. Smash your form and body, spit out hearing and eyesight, forget you are a thing among other things, and you may join in great unity with the deep and boundless.” ― Zhuangzi

“I cannot sit idly by in Atlanta and not be concerned about what happens in Birmingham. Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly.” ― Martin Luther King Jr.

 “A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once. It seems to me most strange that men should fear, seeing that death, a necessary end, will come when it will come.” ― William Shakespeare

Do you see a common theme? Are any of these people thick? Are they keyboard warriors; is Kasparov, the Latvian Parliament, the Polish governement or Andrei Kozyrev?

I don't think sanctions will work. China and India won't abide by them. US intelligence say's Russia has only lost 20% of it's forces so far, and it's just called up 160,000 reservists on top of the latest conscription, and it can call up more. Given we are only aware of a fraction of the horrors Russia has perpetrated, I'm not happy for the world to sit on it's hands and give them the time and opportunity to do 3+ times as much again.

Sanctions never work, the only thing that will is a military deafeat of Russia in Ukraine, which I don't believe the Ukrainians can manage with just better and more guns. I have donated enough money to Ukraine for the purchase of over 5,000 rounds of AK ammunition. It might be a help, but it's only a stop-gap and it, and many more actions like it, are not a solution.

Ya got any evidence for all that because I'm having a hard time finding info on dirty money oligarchs in his campaign. Whereas we know the Russian puppet in charge was well and truly bought with a vulgar, lavish lifestyle.

Loitering weapons will be key to the fight for the Donbas, the JFO have a paucity of these, Nato had better get their ass in gear