Russia - threadbanned users in OP

I'd be a bit less concerned about Hungary now. Once the EU start to turn off the money tap it'll soften their cough quite a bit.

Russia is goosed now and in the future. The west have woken up from placating Putin to fighting a proxy war with him. There is only one long term winner here.

Tell me one thing, the West are doing to stop this war? Please don't say sanctions because we all know Putin is a step or two ahead at present against the West on this.

You are either defeatist or nuts to think the West will be happy to deal with Russia/Putin if Russia take Eastern Ukraine. You've spectacularly misread the room if you think this.

What did Merkel do? She bought oil from Russia despite them having a very modern history of starting wars. Chechnyia, Georgia, Syria and the annexing Crimea from Ukraine 2014. The EU were happy to continue funding and supplying incredible wealth to Russia and one of the main reasons now that Russia is able to fund this brutal war. Europe messed up and I'm not foolish to think that when this war ends, that assets, trade and cash flow will be more important than the lost lives in Ukraine and the destruction caused there.

As for Russia attacking the West... have you been following the war at all? A determined former soviet country has bogged down Russia and exposed them as a paper army

Just reminding you that this war isn't over yet and with a new general in charge of the Russian forces, this can change overnight, the Russian forces are weak now at present but the failure of the West to finish the job will come back to bite them in the ass. If the Russians are a paper army why aren't the West prepared to wipe them out? Because we all know there is corruption involved and the West need Russia again once this war is over. Politicians and political systems are simply corrupt. All for their own interests.

His is the typical Western attitude which will see our undoing. There is a golden opportunity to finally put Russia back in its box whilst simultaneously saving countless lives and limiting further destruction of an entire country. But the west will sits on its hands for fear wemight have to take some pain ourselves.

Happy to do the bare minimum in case we impact our economy while at the same time ignoring the cost to rebuild Ukraine, deal with the millions of refugees, the resulting food shortage from no harvest which could extend into years, the list goes on and on but we'll only worry about our own half acre for now and **** everyone else.

You're inventing your own narrative here but I can see there's no dissuading you so let's not let facts get in the way of a good rant.

I'm taking the Ukrainian narrative, not my own, it's reflected in German society and international media.

Someone is in pain. Bring it on.

All the people who are prepared to trade moral principle for comfort and safety; I wonder have they really thought about what MAD really means? While it seems terrible that mankind gets wiped out, I don't think it is. I used to think it was the worst possible thing imaginable but now I don't.

Every one dies at some point. Some get minutes to live while others get over a century, but all lives end, and at the moment they do, the world ends - not only does the entirety of humanity end, but the whole universe does as well. We all get to a point where everything ceases to exist and whether humanity falls or continues doesn't matter, it's no longer a concern or issue. Bringing forward every humans event horizon of existence so they they are more or less congruent, is just a matter of changing the timing of the inevitable, which is random anyway.

Putin reputedly has 7 children, and at least one or more grandchildren, I think. I don't believe he is willing to deliberately kill them all and wipe out the very Russia he says he's doing this all for. He's bluffing, and even if he isn't, I doubt the chain of command to the keys turning would all carry out their orders to exterminate their own families. The very frequency and willingness to wave this threat around so often and with such abandon, should be enough to tell people it's an empty threat. 'She doth protest too much, methinks.'

I think we have already gone past the red lines of assistance Putin originally voiced at the very outset. Many people are worried about Putin's red line being real, despite his history of a torrent of lies and deceit. His modus operandi is to lie about everything. I doubt there is anyone who could add them all up and provide a figure, so numerous and endless are they. It's simply illogical to give this threat any credence in the face of Putins relationship with truth.

Here's a good one everyone should remember when they are worried he might not be bluffing: "President Vladimir Putin said on Saturday that Western sanctions on Russia were akin to a declaration of war."

Oh look, we're all still here, seems it was an empty threat - no surprise.

one could say we are now entering the real fighting months in the Donbas war, historically speaking, since 2014 the separists have bunkered down in the winter months trying to survive and feed themselves and the war reignites in spring/summer months so the fireworks will be flying for the next 5/6 months and on and on

Do you really think that Putin is content to emerge into a world where he has to fend for himself. Where every meal has to be worked for and earned whilst simultaneously hoping not to die from radiation poisoning. Unless you think he's happy to live on tinned meat and pears for however long he lasts.

Drivel

Posts like this are handy for the thanks that they herd from other like minded fools.

What are you smoking over there? Putin has a year or two left at best, where are you getting that nonsense from? Reliable source or just your own "hunch"?

"New documents reveal that Russian President Vladimir Putin was visited by a thyroid cancer doctor 35 times at his luxury Black Sea retreat, and regularly takes steroids, The Telegraph reported.

The Russian leader had Moscow-based Yevgeny Selivanov, a specialist in thyroid cancer for the “elderly and senile”, repeatedly flown out to his favored residence in Sochi for a total of 166 days over four years, according to the report.

Putin has also taken to bathing in the blood extracted from severed deer antlers as an alternative therapy, said the report which claimed Putin’s poor health is the Kremlin’s “main secret”.

Treatment for thyroid cancer usually involves steroids, which, according to charities, can trigger anxiety, hallucinations and even cause the patient to “imagine things that aren’t real”, noted The Telegraph.

Steroids can also cause swelling. Putin’s bloated appearance has previously led to whispers of plastic surgery."

The man circled is ENT surgeon Alexey Shcheglov.

Ah sure the sanctions will stop Russia sure 🙄