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WWE Raw Superthread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,349 ✭✭✭Cotts72


    Surely could have used that segment with carmella or zelina facing off against a debuting io shirai (that's if she does arrive on raw)



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,349 ✭✭✭Cotts72


    Well that was a waste of time..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,977 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Literally the second they got their brief use out of the women's tag belts for a PPV, they're already tearing the devision apart again. Back to just 2 teams now, both of which were only even created in the last month. Gonna see a whooooole lot of Sasha & Naomi Vs Shayna and Natalya...

    Otherwise, a few alright bits, but a lot to just skip through.

    <edit> Also, why do all these big lads have to be portrayed as practically feral personality-less beasts? Like, the extent of them usually is, they're big, and they go "Raarrrrrr!"

    Post edited by ~Rebel~ on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Blue_Dabadee


    I really glad Edge decided to take a page out of Jericho book to reinvent himself.

    The segment with Edge/Priest was excellent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,863 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    Well, they completely ripped up the script and had the champion get pinned in a six man.....

    So edge is the Monday night Messiah now and Elias is his own younger brother........


    Fair play to WWE, spunking away any mania goodwill that fast actually has to take effort.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Worst Raw after Mania ever, as @hynesie08 said any goodwill they had after Mania weekend is already dead in the water.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭RollieFingers


    Wasn't Raw meant to be epic though? WWE have the momentum and passion back to stick it to the smarks so it must have been good.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Part of the reason cody left the wwe was to get out from under the shadow of dusty and in his first promo back all he does is talk about being under the shadow of dusty and dusty this an dusty that



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Nah, maybe you forgot them but the Thunderdome RAWs after Mania were still worse than this by a long way. But they've been progressively bad for a few years now. No debuts (unless you count Ezekiel), no new feuds. The only thing it really had going was Cody's promo at the beginning.

    Part of me thinks it's down to Wrestlemania Backlash being basically a rehash of Mania so they don't bother building anything new.

    The crowd were shite as well though, they got into Cody's promo and then went to sleep for the entire show apart from to **** on Edge and Priest's promo (which was about the only other thing worth watching).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,878 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I didn't watch RAW and won't after seeing the reviews of it being bad.

    Here is my take on what was once the best and most fun show of the year in the WWE.

    First and foremost the WWE ie Vince has killed it because he did not like the BIZARRO fans having fun on Monday Night RAW.

    Secondly RAW used to be the last show on a weekend that included only one Wrestlemaina not two.

    Now you also have a Wrestlemaina festival of wrestling weekend with so many other promotions there that so many of the international fans go to on this weekend and pack in as much wrestling as possible not just WWE so by the time they now get the final show of the weekend they are totally burnt out and all they want to do is go home and not watch a crappy WWE show that is counter progarmmed so they won't enjoy it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Elias confirming that beards are to men what make-up is to women.



  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Serenity Future Self-expression


    I assumed he was some relation to Brodie Lee.

    Just another AEW waster.



  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Serenity Future Self-expression


    There's definitely hope for anyone that can grow a beard.



  • Registered Users Posts: 345 ✭✭orecir


    Edge and Priest together are a fantastic painting.


    Ezikel is fun creative and should lead to some great comedic moments.


    Hopefully Reigns injury is not too serious as he is carrying pro wrestling in the states these days.


    A decent raw but I expect a fantastic Friday night smackdown.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Kevin owens just another wwe waster copying the young bucks pose with cody




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,878 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Brody King a waster jaysus i have read it all now that WWE bubble really is cult like.



  • Registered Users Posts: 573 ✭✭✭nazmoalex


    Just watched some clips and highlights from Raw.

    Codyvator thing getting stuck was probably the highlight of the night for me.

    Ezekiel should have said he was Sandow's little brother to confuse things even more.

    Not a lot else happening, suppose Backlash ppv will be the proper reset button. Gonna be hard to milk rematches when the best of Mania had celebs or Austin.

    Veer was alright, be good to see him squash Dominic.

    Wish.com joke was pretty good, even if I'm not the biggest House of Black fan. Purple mood light just reminds me of Sin Cara and the Fiend, neither of which is a good thing. But maybe Brody King should let it play out before trying to bury them.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    The one thing I'll say about the Edge/Priest stuff is that at least it was something different on the show. Aside from that and Cody we basically got rehashed matches from mania minus some competitors or even with some mashed together ala Finn/RKBro VS Usos/Theory.

    I hate WrestleMania Backlash as a concept so much as its doing the same thing as last year and just extending the Mania feuds for another month, which in most cases arent necessary



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    It looks like it but I hope it's not a House of Black knock-off. They are are shíte anyway, like the vast majority of spooky/occult stuff in wrestling. What do they actually do? They've been trying to possess a cheerleader for about 6 months at this stage.

    Someone would want to pull Malachy Black aside and just tell him "You're not half as cool as you think you are, no more creative control for you."



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    It's being reported now that Ciampa and Ripley are possibly joining them. Sounds like all killer, no filler.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Ciampa will look like a midget next to Edge, Priest and Rhea….



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Still better than whatever the alternative would have been on the main roster, just like Dunne probably got off easy with the name change and being put with Sheamus.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I was close suggesting Elias when we get his younger brother.

    So now they don't have a number 1 contender's match, they just have a championship contender's match against the champions which they lose and still get a title shot? Though I guess they didn't really lose since it was an illegal tag at the end since Naomi wasn't holding the tag rope. 😀

    So all the talk from Veer and having his eyes on a target, and it was Dominik?

    Who were Zelina and Carmella meant to fight?

    Expected someone to come out for the save with AJ instead of just officials.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    The Blackheart stuff definitely suits whatever their plans are. But with them being positioned as heels and Roman holding both main belts I'm not sure where it fits exactly. I just want the WWE Title back on Raw so there's some sort of focal point, it's fairly rudderless without a world title at present.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,878 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Elias/Ezekiel could be Ciampa  with out the beard.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,490 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Rhea turning on Liv joining Edge's brood next week could be good

    I think Ciampa should stay face maybe help Styles

    Rollins and Cody tag team?

    MVP returns for Omos



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭RollieFingers


    Brody getting attacked for his tweet 😂 Seems like some members of the WWE Universe can be a tad over-sensitive!




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Mmm... bait.

    It goes both ways, see all the AEW fans having a meltdown because Cody went back to WWE or because Seth Rollins insulted Meltzer, a lot of Rollins' tweets in general for a time proved that. Should also remember there's far more shots going one way than the other, which is fine, WWE are the enemy and the monopoly and all that. It's a good hook to jaded fans but at the end of the day, it's two billionaires in a pissing contest. If you watch some of both promotions like a lot of people, there's enjoyment to be had from both because they're fairly different products by and large. There's room for both.

    I get you're trying to prove that WWE fans are thin-skinned tribalists but you coming to the thread to say this is did nothing but prove that there's plenty of AEW fans like that too, be better.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭RollieFingers


    I'm only replying to talk in the thread man, don't take it so seriously.

    Didn't notice any of your mmm bait posts under any of the smarks, Meltzer Cultists, Khan fanboys etc. posts you see around here (which are all good btw, it's just a bit of craic). Maybe be better there.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Cody is a draw baby the biggest raw ratings in over a year vince will be offering aew talent fortunes to jump ship and help him out now



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭ThePott


    You're kinda leaving yourself open here. If Cody is such a big draw why were Dynamite's ratings not as high as that frequently? It's a number of factors, not just Cody (although he generates interest) let's not jump the gun.

    Yeah it wasn't the tweet though, was it? It's the usual stirring of WWE fans are sensitive. You only ever pop into non-AEW threads to stir if we're honest. There's plenty of others on the forum like that and it's grand, I don't give a toss either way but I'll all you out on it no bother.

    I've got in plenty of arguments with people for lick-assery on one side or the other or people who can't take any criticism of the product. Even called out bait. It just so happens that a lot of people love to pop into the WWE threads to say how they didn't watch it but it's terrible. Outside of those threads they're often excellent posters with balanced views that make great contributions, so going for the low hanging fruit and taking pot shots for no reason is just sad.

    I don't need to be better but thanks for trying 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,490 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Rock's mammy interacted with Cody in his dark match against KO



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,884 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    KO calling out The Rock for Mania 39 confirmed then



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Ringside news is now reporting and contradicting cody by saying they spoke to raw writers who said codys promo was 100% scripted despite cody saying it was not scripted at all by the wwe



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Theres no way that was scripted by WWE. That promo was actually good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,863 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    So Cody "focus group" Rhodes, who wasted the cm punk promo he had written before the ink was dry on Phil's contract because he knew he wouldn't get a match with him, pulled that promo out of his ass?


    Add being a liar to reasons he's the absolute worst.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭ThePott


    I mean Ringside News is notoriously dreadful, hell they've even had people harass Reddit users who badmouthed them, so much so they got banned as a source. That being said it probably does depend on your definition of scripted. I would guess the vague gist of his promo, he's not gonna come out and say that he's after the world title without permission and I think that would be the case anywhere. They'd also need to know for the sake of what they put up on the titantron.

    Does that count as scripted? Who knows? Then again I'd be shocked if Cody hadn't it built into his contract that he can have some leeway in promos if he wants that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,863 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    Actually, did he say not scripted by WWE? I fully believe ender of racism Cody Rhodes has his own writer that he pays out of pocket.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,490 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Is Cody on Smackdown tonight, cannot seem to locate the Smackdown thread



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,884 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Thought it was just me, fairly odd the thread has suddenly vanished

    Getting a nice surprise tonight, jesus how can you get worse then Butch and the Viking Experience




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Ciampa? Io?

    Smackdown thread here, but missing posts after September 2016

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2057652961/smackdown-live-superthread

    For the mods, I see there was a similar issue in the Film forum discussed in the offtopic thread in the last few posts.

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2057285800/film-forum-off-topic-random-chat-thread#latest



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    Marcel Barthel is now "Ludwig" or "Ludwig Klaus" apparently! Who comes up with these names?!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Gunther und Ludwig? Probably drop the Imperium name as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,884 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Ludwig kaiser

    Not the worst tbh



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    "The worst one yet." More overblown dirtsheet shite. You'd worry about the people who listen to those twats. Probably avid readers of The Sun/Daily Mail too.

    Ludwig Kaiser. What's the big deal? Ludwig sounds meh, a little better if it's pronounced Ludvig. Kaiser sounds cool.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,977 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    The name's are alright... Gunther, and Ludwig Kaiser.... but fcking hell, did they really need to dress Gunther up as something of a militaristic Nazi throwback, and call him the "Ring General", with a big title of "Gunther Invades", while Europe is at war? Seems in really poor taste right now. (or ever really, but especially right now). It's like they literally couldn't think of a single thing to do with a German or Austrian that isn't just "WW2".

    His music is also basically the beginning of the 1989 Batman theme, but that's neither here nor there..


    <edit> Bit of a weird show... only 4 matches, and they were all short. Felt like a loooot of promos, packages, and recaps.

    Just did a quick scan back through - there was 16 minutes of actual wrestling matches on screen in total.

    Post edited by ~Rebel~ on


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Just went back through my comments but I can't seem to go into the thread, tis like it's been deleted. Probably one of the many glitches of this awful, awful Vanilla platform.



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