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Poland and Denmark both said they would be willing to be named as guarantor's for Ukraine in there peace talks.

Wonderful apt cartoon. Summarises the situation far better than the western media unfortunately has done.

Its more to do with not taking to many causualtys as you withdraw so shell thr sh1t out of them so they stay in cover and dont follow for a while as you withdraw

Remarkable good faith there from the Russians indeed.

Is he going to launch something at Kyiv?

Russia: We have no plans to attack Kyiv with weapons of mass destruction

Ron Howard: Later that day, Russia attacked Kyiv with weapons of mass destruction

But in seriousness, the city of Kyiv itself is a place I understand Russians hold in high regard and think of it as the second city of the Slavic world, behind Moscow, and an historical centre of Slavic culture before Moscow even got going. The idea of bombarding Kyiv could be controversial for even the true blue supporter of Putin as it would potentially mean destroying some dear history. I don't know what the Irish equivalent would be.... Maybe like flattening Bundoran or something.

What am we looking at there... Some dollars?

If either of those things happen I reckon NATO will get involved and then any Russian within the borders of Ukraine would be fair game.

After Obama's red lines in Syria debacle the US will react in far more aggressive manner.

I suspect it might be the Donbass War for the foreseeable future. Most action will be attrition based warfare along a single long front from Mariupol in the south up to Kharkiv in the north; or some variation thereof. Strikes behind Ukraine lines will be frequent and damaging; Ukraine won't be able to do the same behind Russian lines. Losses on both sides will likely be significant; but Ukraine will struggle against Russian air superiority. At some point Russia might achieve air supremacy over some key Ukrainian cities which would be a disaster and could force Ukraine's hand at any negotiations; but I hope that's less likely.

Just my idiot opinion. I sincerely hope we will have had a Russian withdrawal by then but I just don't see how that happens.

If push comes to shove, Putin does not need any reason to call a nuclear strike....one of his spokespersons has already said that Russia is not bound by any "First Strike " rules or international laws. It will evaluate threats as it sees fit, and react accordingly.( Nukes? ) And we have already seen an Israeli spokes person ( one who has always only posted positive articles / news etc. about Putin ) publicly stating that Putin HAS to achieve his Ukrainian targets, otherwise this will be considered as failure, and that will be an existential threat to Russia.