Ukraine (Mod Note & Threadbanned Users in OP)

probably only a snippet of how their intelligence works

If I remember correctly when the 2nd Russian pipeline to Europe ( Germany) was being discussed, the US strongly advised Merkel that reliance on Russian Gas, Oil etc, was a big mistake ( and as we have seen,,,so it has) but she plowed on anyway, in the belief that good trade relations with Russia would prevent any war from happening. Anyway, as far as Putin and Russia is concerned, its a one trick pony,,,,Putin ( or anyone else either )will not get the same chance with the EU again.

If it was neither here nor there, why did the White House immediately clarify the remarks and said regime change isn't the US policy.

The world is only concerned about further escalation.

Not sure what you're getting at or if you're able to engage competently with the issues.

Suppose Putin had the choice between Ukraine being part of Nato or Ukraine having survived an invasion from Russia.

Supposing that,which would be the more advantageous situation from his pov?

Being part of Nato might arguably keep Ukraine in check as Nato would prefer good relations with Moscow if possible.

Outside Nato Ukraine's foreign policy is it's own (and Ukraine is possibly a far more committed and able adversary than it would otherwise have been )

Should Putin have stuck with the "devil he knew"?

So, Ukraine survives Putins invasion ( by definition, this would mean defeating Putins army) and from a very strong position, can and does join not only NATO but the EU, Putins greatest fear... a democratic and successful Ukraine, with his Countrymen looking enviously across the borders. So what does Putin do? What can he do? Press the nuclear button? He is finished. So not a good outcome for him. Stuck with the devil he knew.....??? Another man would have done that, and made the best of it. ( but then again, another man would have taken his Country on different path) Putin is now hoist on his own Petard. He gambled and lost, even if the story is far from finished, it will only have one outcome eventually.

Indeed it does say a lot about this thread, as you can see from the title of the thread it is about Ukraine which we are all happily discussing. As regards yemen being "sexy enough" unlike you I dont find the needless death of anyone sexy wherever they are from but again this thread is about Ukraine.

Look, I know it’s the middle of a war and President Zelenskyy has 44 million more important people and things to worry about but was his swipe at Ireland really necessary? Unless it was a mistake or oversight on his part? Ireland has backed Ukraine to the hilt, Irish people have opened their wallets, hearts and homes to Ukraine. We even take in and treat cancer Ukrainian patients because it is the right thing to do and despite whatever criticism I or others may level at this country we do have a strong moral compass ingrained in us.

Far as I know we do support their accession to the EU or anything other national aspirations they chose to have. Was it our lack of direct military weapons he was referring to? Personally I think we should send all we can from the Curragh but in the context of our neutrality I appreciate that’s not a decision made so easily

I suspect not, although some might be relaxed. This is the idea of an offramp. Too much has happened for everything to return to normal. But i wouldnt be surprised if certain things relaxed slightly

Also it would depend on the circumstances of a Russian withdrawal. Needless to say id Russia withdrew due to Putin having 'an unfortunate accident' - that could lead to lots of sanction reductions

Why do you think this?

Because your cognitive dissonance knows no bounds @tooka . And because you are a fool. Your desperate attempts to spin and distort this situation are struggling to make sense. You display a complete detachment from reality, with regards to the war, and your 'contributions' to this forum.

This post for example. Another attempt to frame the Ukraine as 'adversarial' to Ireland - and you do so by insulting the leader of a free country, which is under attack by a monster. Just as you did yesterday when you attacked Irelands help for Ukrainian refugees.

When it comes to playing the 'loud drunk at the bar, who knows a thing or two, about a thing or two', you are owning the role! I imagine you shaking your fists at a computer screen as you post each new vile statement. Im sure your detachment from reality is sufficient that you truly believe that your points are valid.

Im going back to ignoring you now. It was a mistake to feed your ego by responding to you, and i apologize to everyone else for doing so

In this country we should probably make a deal with the kinahan crime cartel and all the other various low life’s and give them everything they want so they won’t shoot us.

Yes that’s how it works that’s how you live life in peace by your logic.