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sick of propping up non performing farms

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭GNWoodd




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭abnormalnorman


    no , your wrong. covid wont fall into any of those clauses. i guarantee you , no gov contracts will be changing contract sums for covid or increased inflation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭abnormalnorman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭abnormalnorman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭abnormalnorman


    hahaha!! i might be better off - might make more profit than the boys with the big machines!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Some of the points are not realistic.

    Plenty of lads have to spend big money on machines - not because they want a fancy toy but because it is an essential tool to their work. 25 years ago we got away with a 95HP yoke when we made 3-400 bales of silage a year at home. Although that was also for a baler with no knives and didn't pack as tight as modern bales. Fast forward to today and it would be more than 5X that amount. A big job back then would have been 80 bales on the ground to be picked up in a day. Nowadays, a busy day is 300+. There is no scope for downtime of machines or unreliability.

    A tillage man with a massive 200HP machine and plough sticking out the back of it isn't just buying a big toy. He's putting the money into that because it is the only way he can get enough ground covered to make it viable. The days of having local lads on call whenever you need to get them in for a day or two here or there to drive a tractor for you for small money are gone. He can't have two or three small tractors. Go big or go home.

    Same as how the lads on site with the wheelbarrows and shovels are replaced by the little mini-digger. The mini-digger isn't cheap but it's less expensive and more reliable than trying to get a few random lads in with wheelbarrows for a few days. It's not an expensive toy. You just can't run your business like that now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,552 ✭✭✭DBK1


    No you're wrong. I can't keep explaining it to you. And actually the government contracts are the most guaranteed to change. Don't take my word for it, ask someone higher up in whatever construction job your in that actually deals with contracts and not just the other "go-for" you're sitting with at lunch time. Check Gov.ie for the press release from Minister McGrath about it. Even just google it, anything at all, you don't have to take my word for it, the information is all there for anyone to see.

    Now as 893bet reminded us earlier there is a reason for not arguing with a fool so I won't be replying any more as everything I'm saying can be verified and the information is all there for anyone to see, everything you are spouting here is rubbish and that's plain for all to see.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭abnormalnorman


    yes, please dont reply any more. you cant seem to handle being corrected, and need to resort to name calling - very mature!! i can imagine the contracts your working on !



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,046 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    MOD: I think this has reached the end of its use, so we'll leave you with the last word, as seems your wont.

    Thread closed.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

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