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Calf prices 2022

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  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Murang


    Just want to ask any way of stopping calves sucking each other tried iodine dirt but nothing seems to stop them



  • Registered Users Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Morris Moss


    Stockholm tar, crib halt or maybe a bit of grease



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Could hang a clean empty drum over the pen, they might do their messing with that instead



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭straight


    Took 6 fr bulls to the mart yesterday. Between 2 and 3 weeks old. Made between 5 and 70 euro. Average 27 euro. Whoever bought them can't lose anyway and all the hard work done for them.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,284 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,948 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Jeez, don't use grease. You don't want that in a calf's stomach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Easten


    Neighbour landed 8 Fr bulls from the mart that were unsold. €30 for the lot plus the mart didn't charge commission as an incentive to take them. I called in to see them and they look much better than I expected, but it's the cost of feeding them is the question now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭straight


    Just put them on once a day with a first of nuts. Plenty hay/straw. The dairy farmer has the work done. They'll be worth multiple times their cost in 12 months.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,679 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Similar story to the wool market at present.

    In times gone by, the sale of the wool paid for shearing and paid the concentrate bill for the year. Nowadays it doesn't cover the cost of shearing.

    The wool has become a byproduct of meat production just like the friesian bull calf has become a byproduct of dairy production.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    If there is any Jex breeding in them then the reality is with the cost of meal & feed & rented land them calves are worth nothing & only going to cost the lad that bought them money. Would be better off buying a calf at €100 that will respond to feeding and kill into a decent weight. Anything with jex is too expensive to feed for the return in weight gain that you get. Lads a slowly getting to realize this.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭older by the day


    Multiple their cost in 12 months. FFS you know the costs and you know what you will get in a year's time. Can I borrow the crystal ball there please. Calfs need a good drop of milk till they are fit for grass and to be honest they would need a kg of nuts per day. I know there are lads here who can rear Friesians on fresh air. I can't. Il take the kids to the beach for the summer or go inside and watch tom and jerry before I'd go feeding those calfs at the cost of farming



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭straight


    I wouldn't have jerseys inside the gate here. The smallest guy was off a heifer so he just needs time. Surely there isn't too many lads renting land for calves.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    Not for calves, but for beefing bullocks / heifers there would be & alot of lads that rear calves up this way bring them to the hook so it takes a right spread of ground to do that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,487 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    I don't agree with that at all. I've seen plenty of calves from JEX and they turned into Savage animals



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    Savage animals at what age and what costs for no profit.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,487 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    I know a fella here that got AA out of JEX. Barely got meal and we're sold at 22months old for nearly 1200 just after Christmas. They just got grass and barely any at that. Didn't get alot of loving. In my experience it's the way the bull calves are treated in the first few weeks. Many farmers just give them enough to keep them alive and only concentrate on the heifers. This reflects on them further on in thier lives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭straight


    They'll make 700 euro in 12 months time. Stick to tom and jerry I'd say. Sadly there is no easy money anywhere in farming.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,216 ✭✭✭Good loser


    I kinda agree. Have a pretty good Jer/Her cross nearing two years - a good shape; didn't spot he was a Jer until he was in the place for a year.

    Quite a few Jersey calves might be only 15% or 20% Jersey.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Calves " better " in bandon today. Mine made 35 to 85 in two groups. 5 weeks old and feckall difference between the groups. AA heifer the same age made 170. Saw fr singles off frx cows go to 100 then. Can't make sense of it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,051 ✭✭✭DukeCaboom


    I think they were comparing it to Wednesday night which was atrocious. A neighbor no saled his fr bulls at 35 Wednesday night got 85 today. There was a local lad here who buys 200 calves every year in about 4 sales landed and only bought 22 calves.

    Again an awful lot of young calves.

    There was two new northern lads upset the whole thing. One lad just sat up the back bought out every thing he bid on. Must have bought 200 calved between them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭straight


    The lads buying them don't have a clue. They're so busy looking at each other they don't even look at the calf.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,948 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,902 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    At work one day a local jobber came up in conversation and another know it all listed off several "beef men" he had encountered down through the years that had went burst. The only common denominator between them in his opinion was that they had said jobber employed buying cattle for them. He maintained that the man in question spent all his time looking at what everyone else bid for and bought. When his own "turn" came he didn't look at the beast at all as he was too busy minding everyone else's business. Several more of us agreed that we'd never seen him to buy anything that looked value for money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,465 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Got some BB heifers that I want to sell at mart. We raised them from suck calves. 11 months old averaging 275kg. Are we best aiming to sell at a certain date or weight?

    Plan was to add some of them to the herd and reseed some ground this year, but with increasing costs of diesel and fertiliser we are thinking of selling them to maintain herd size and pushing out the reseeding to hopefully next year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,051 ✭✭✭DukeCaboom


    Calves on the absolute floor yesterday in macroom. A friend had 12 hex,aa and six bulls around 70kg at 180. There was cracking fr bulls at 40 quid. He put it well to me when he said there actually not that cheap.... When last du check the price of milk powder?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭DBK1


    Milk powder gone up €9 a bag here since this time last year. Considering each calf should only need about 1.5 bags it’s not a massive extra expense per head. I think calves are the best value stock to be got at the minute. I bought a batch of white head heifers over the weekend and they’re €20 a head less than last year. The extra cost of the milk powder, and some of the ration cost, is covered in that.

    On a side note, do any of ye feed natural yogurt to calves in with the milk replacer after buying them?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭straight


    I think it's just lads find it easier to pay about 6 or 700 euro for them at 12 months. It looks like alot of people don't have the ability to rear calves.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭older by the day


    Fr bulls 3wk old 20 euro in skibbereen. On buying them as yearlings you save money and work. Straw, hay, milk, calf nuts, grass, dealing with calf scour, training them to the fencer. If it takes 1400 to bring a fr heifer from calf to parlor then I suppose a fr bullock to 30 months would be more. I would prefer to pick up a few light weanlings in October for 2 euro a kg. Often seen Hereford and Angus heifers between five and six hundred euro in October.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,630 ✭✭✭✭_Brian




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,912 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    No boats, hopefully some will go this week



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,051 ✭✭✭DukeCaboom


    No, just no farmer s turned up just two dealers had it to themselves. The week before they a lad from Sligo and one from Donegal to upset things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,912 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Was talking to a dealer today said he got 40 Hereford calves averaging 48 euros from carnew on Saturday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    Had a friend in Carnew on Saturday said it was the worst calf sale for quality in the last 2 years and full of small jex calves by Hereford, speckled parks, Angus, out of something like 360 lots a total of 25 calves made over 250 euro. At the middle of the sale there was only 5 dealers left at the ring with none of the exporters present.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭straight


    How does he sleep at night. He must have no conscience.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    If they are JEx then its more than enough for them. I bought 3 hex together last year, 1 of them has 10% jex and he is a nice bit smaller than the other two now. I am guessing he ll be doing well to make a 300kg dw, where as his 2 buddies will cross 350kgs dw, @ €4.50 / kg that's €225 for d same investment. Without anything for the better grading of the 2 good lads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,630 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    One of the hex we bought last year is similar, she’s stacked on the weight but no height.

    more worrying she has a terrible temperament. Never seen that in hex before.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Easten


    That's a big difference in the value of two animals, both of which I presume landed on the farm at the same time and for similar money



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    It is and people need to realize that, now granted the smaller lad will probably be b ready to go 2 months before the 2 bigger lads, but that's just 2 months of grass feeding so there wouldn't be that big of an expense against that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Easten


    A sharp lad that could pick calves would make money so as the Good and the bad can be got for €5 to €50 now



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,630 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Picking calves at 3 weeks in a mart is hard going. Something that’s 10% jex is near impossible to spot at that age.

    I find we always get a spread of quality that balance out good one with the other, bit o wish I could be picking the top 1/3 all the time, some difference in thrive for the same conditions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,025 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    A jobber will pick out the good calf at the mart and stop him then ,Last week watching online one jobber numbers on his hand showed on the screen when he used start waving them around and sure enough when the calves came in for sale with them numbers ,they were bought bought at a knocked down price at least 60 euro less then poorer calves then them



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    It's very hard to pick out a good calf at 3 weeks, feeding by the lad selling them can make a big difference. There is a lad sells calves here, in the mart they always look top class. But they go back when you buy them. Said it to one of the mart drovers one day, he said that lad leaves the calf sucking a cow from they are born until he sells them. It buts a right bit of a shape & shine in them.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    I got caught out last year buying calves like that. They were advertised as weaned and looked smashers. But several fell apart when I got them home. I put them back on milk but they didn't know what the teat feeder was. I followed up with the dealer and found out they had all been drinking cows til the morning they were brought to the mart. Another mistake I won't make again.

    I was watching New Ross online on Saturday - all calves seemed to be back a bit. I went to Dungarvan last Thursday (in person) and they seemed similar to previous weeks. Plenty strong AA, HE, and LM heifers and bulls under €200 at 3-4 weeks old. That's around my budget anyway. I'll have to sit around the ring in the cold and get dirty looks from the gaggle of jobbers in the corner for a few hours but it's a small price to pay for getting the right calves.

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,630 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    If you get walking through calves beforehand. Any calf that isn’t going mad to get your fingers is going to take work to get onto a feeder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,912 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    I do that, sell off cow. Gives the calf a great start tbf.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    Any body using HerdApp, they now have online calf sale listings. Not many using it yet, but it gives the full breakdown of the dam's back breeding and the sire, and the tag number and & dob of the calf for sale.

    Seller's name and contact number.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,630 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    If it’s simple to use it would pay for itself quickly



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,216 ✭✭✭Good loser


    That 10% Jersey, how do you know that is the %?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    I just applied for the dairy-beef scheme on agfood and noticed that you can get paid now for 40 calves, up from 20 last year. Not likely to impact calf price much but it'll be an extra few quid for people rearing beef calves in a year when every cent will count.

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    From checking out his tag on ICBF it gives you the % breakdown, so usually 50% the bull, plus what ever makes up the cow.



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