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Quantum leap revival/reboot

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Being a "network" reboot, I really can't see how this is going to set itself apart enough to be a success: maybe if HBO, Netflix or a channel with a bit of creative swagger had a pop there'd be a chance this could be interesting; some structural or tonal change to the premise maybe, or an especially creative talent headlining the production. Instead it just smells of a factory US Network TV production, trying to join the queue of reboots and reimaginings. I mean sure, it could be good - there's always a chance with these things. But for now I'm definitely mostly 🤔 rather than 😄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,673 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly



    Been a few decent reboots (and some stinkers) recently so don't count it out yet



  • Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭Useless Lump


    Ernie Hudson’s character is described as the project leader who goes to Washington DC to try keep the project alive after Dr. Lee disappears - this means that unlike the original we would now see both the present day and the time that the Leaper is in.

    I hope the hologram companion isn’t just an actor on the set - it would be good if they used special effects to make the actor appear hologram like but still fit in with the hologram from the original.



  • Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭Useless Lump


    And hopefully they don’t go white washing history to make the stories “acceptable”.

    not much point in a time travel tv series that pretends prejudice, etc didn’t exist



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I think the way things are ATM there's little chance the show could whitewash without getting a lot of backlash. Some people will still whinge though, if the show did decide to show American history was a bit racist; I remember similar from some regarding Timeless (the last network show centred around time travel).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,673 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Oh that was rebooted too, wasn't it? Not good?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,673 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly



    Essence of the show was pretty much all blacks are subjugated and all white people are bad, ohhh and here's some passing semblance to the original show



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    There seems to be a big ish cast, so will it be like The Time Tunnel, where there could be two stories running at any time. A story happening with the team keeping the project working, and another story with whatever is happening where the leaper is?

    Also, is there no hologram this time?

    "(Caitlin) Bassett will star as as Addison, a project lead at Quantum Leap headquarters who operates state-of-the-art technology to communicate with an individual time traveling in the past, likely similar to how Al communicated with Sam via hologram in the original show."

    I wonder is the name Addison a nod to Anita W. Addison.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭Useless Lump


    I suggested the same above because Hudson is a main cast member and the leader of the project so therefore the series is about Raymond Lee and also the team back at HQ.

    I didn’t know more cast had been announced. This Addison is obviously the new Al.

    It would be cool if we get to see Addison with Lee (like Bakula and Stockwell were) but also if we sometimes see to the communication from just her point of view in the present day.



  • Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭Useless Lump


    I keep thinking of the revival as a series when in fact it hasn’t got through the pilot stage yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    Somebody must be fairly confident of it getting the green light, the original series is repeating on at least three stations over here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Just watching an episode now and noticed the setup from the previous episode didn't match the opening for this episode. Was this always the case?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,673 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,068 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Imagine he leaps into Sam to get Sam to not chicken out of his first leap. Would be great but really sad as we know he would be sending Sam to get forever lost in time.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I just mean the scene changed a bit. Was longer with different dialogue and saying "Oh boy" in a different position.



  • Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭Useless Lump


    It has been a long time since I’ve seen the show your post is juggling at something in my brain - I do think there were several times where the the prologue was longer to the previous epilogue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Yeah, just figured they would take the prologue from the next episode and stick it on at the end of the previous episode. Though I suppose the epilogue would usually be really short but need the longer prologue.

    I know this thread is about the remake, but randomly watching on Sky now. The Leap Home and didn't realise before that Scott plays Sam's dad even though it's obvious.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    Saw this on Reddit, thought it might be appreciated here too. Spoiler only says when and where scene is supposed to be.

    It's an earthquake scene, San Francisco, 1989.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,518 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Ordered to Series at NBC



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I enjoyed the show back in the day and I wouldn't recommend remaking it. I think these things should be left alone.

    But if you didn't get how WOKE the original series was, then I'd suggest going back and watching a few episodes. Loads of civil rights topics which were 20 years old, but still relevant to the late 80s and early 90s.

    The topics I remember off te top of my head include: race, gender, poverty, intellectual and physical disabilities, anti war. Those are still topical discussions today.

    If those aren't the kinds of topics they base episodes around, what do you think they'll be based on?



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    If those are woke issues then I don’t think know I know what woke means?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Aren't they WOKE topics? I would have said they are. I don't use the term WOKE unless I'm discussing the topic, like we are here, so I'm not an expert.

    The point I'm making is that those were hot button, social issues back when the original series was made. And it dealt with them in a very progressive way back then. I'd expect them to do more or less the same thing with the reboot, using today's hot button social issues and deal with them in a progressive way too.

    What do you think they'll do?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    But those were/are real problems.

    Isn’t woke a term for idiots jumping on social justice bandwagons about made up problems?

    However, I do see your point how this reboot could be very woke.

    Beckett was empathetic and unprejudiced about everything and everyone. He never held a racist view that he learned to overcome, etc. Add to that that he was an expert at everything from medicine to firearms to sports, etc. and he is the ultimate Mary Sue.

    The new Leaper will probably be the same as filmmakers are afraid to have hero characters be even slightly intolerant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I'd say the things you're considering genuine problems were seen as 'idiots jumping on social justice bandwagons about made up problems' back before they were pushed to be seen and addressed as real problems. Civil rights for blacks in America was only an issue for pickos, commies, gays and subversives. Now we see it as a real issue. Similar with civil rights for nationalists in NI.

    Not every issue transitions from WOKE, SJW issue to being considered a genuine issue, of course.

    I'd be shocked if the QL reboot doesn't deal with things like, the environmen, trans, racial and wealth inequalities. A d I'd be even more surprised they don't deal with them in a progressive light.

    Can you see a situation where he leaps into a transgender scenario and leaves with the impression that transitioning gender is mental illness, only done for personal gain or symptom of a bad egg?

    This is the problem with reboots. The audience gets old and crotchety. If the show stays true to its roots it'll annoy the people who liked the original because they were young and hopeful, are now old and salty. They don't want to know about new issues and assume new issues are not genuine concerns.

    That's why I wouldn't advise a reboot. It was a great show. Leave it alone, would be my advice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭recyclops


    If it is that event in the spoiler. There is a very good ESPN 30 for 30 about that day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    I’m old and crotchety about a lot of things but not Quantum Leap.

    It is a great concept, was very entertaining and I’m glad the new series is a sequel but I’m not precious about it. Not a reboot by the way.

    New and old problems in society being dealt with is fine with me. Actual problems - not made up stuff.

    You seem to be confused about I said about Beckett being too empathetic and unprejudiced. I was saying that rather than being so open-minded about everything that it would have been more interesting, for example, he was shown to be a little homophobic when he first leaps into the live of a homosexual person but by the time he leaves he is more understanding*. Why in the world you think that spending time as a trans gender person would result in the the main character thinking less of those people is beyond me?

    * Al was the much better character in the original show. He had prejudices and failings and was far more believable a person.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    Hopefully the show will use a lot of real world eventually like this.

    And hopefully the new guy leaps into people outside America.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Yeah, I think there's no way the show will do anything except take the progressive angle on modern hot button issues, such as transgender. I think that will annoy lots of older people who think it's not a real issue.

    Whether you think its a real issue or a name up issue is up to you. But it's certainly a contemporary issue and that's why I think the kind of issue the show will address amongst many others.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Not transgender, more transvestism really, but there was at least one episode when Sam jumped into the body of a woman - but IIRC, and it's a LONG time since I saw the show, the episode's tone mostly played for a reductive "gosh, women have it so tough, amirite ladies?", as well as cheap comedy over Scott Bakula in a dress.

    The new show will do the same; maybe the way the stories are told will be updated for the era we live in but I don't doubbt there'll be stories of racial, sexual or gender inequality within the reboot. Now, whether they can do those stories justice and not come across as patronising or clumsy - that's another matter. I doubt they'll even touch transgenderism 'cos that's a tricky needle to thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,673 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    He leapt into the body of women a number of times - he was a pregnant teenager close to the delivery date and he leapt in a young woman who had just been raped hours before. That was good episode but they ended it badly with the writers needing Beckett to beat up the rapist rather than something more original.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    But when it happens now the reddit dwellers will be screaming woke.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    And no doubt those who are wine will find something wrong too

    both sides are idiots



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    "That was good episode but they ended it badly with the writers needing Beckett to beat up the rapist rather than something more original."

    Yeah she beat him up in little gazebo sort of thing. I think that suited the ending at the time. Like a feel good factor - 'she socked it to him'. At the time-ish, IIRC there was a load of movies ending where the victim ends up getting their own back the same way that they had whatever it was, done to them, rather than in court or going down the legal route.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    This is precisely the point I'm making. If they handle the stories the same way, the people who.like the original will think its become reductive and patronising because THEY'VE changed. They used to see new issues as interesting and relevant. Now they're old and they don't see new issues as stupid and petty.

    That's the trick age plays on people. They didn't realise the original show was WOKE, because they were young and cared about the issues back then. Now they've gotten old and don't care about new issues. The issues haven't stopped occurring, their ability to care has ceased.

    That's why I think there's a mismatch between the show as it was and the audience is will appeal to. Old viewers might watch a couple of episodes and think it's WOKE rubbish - not realising the original was also WOKE for its day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,459 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Isn't Boards.ie great - complaining that a series that hasn't even been made yet is too WOKE!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,676 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    look on the bright side, if they go back to the 80's and 90's a lot , Gen Zers will get chance to see how great things were

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,021 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Can't imagine one of the heroes this time (Al) snooping off to "check out the women's bathroom" or whatever.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Bingo. Same as those who call modern Star Trek "woke" without a trace of irony or self-awareness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    NBC showed some footage at their upfronts. Not released publicly but description and a couple of official photos in the link




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,673 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    That gives me a not so nice feeling they will be spending a lot of time in the future in the lab



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,889 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I know it is only a still however it so bad




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Have they said yet if he's trapped in the past or if he travels from the "present" each or nearly each time?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,673 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly




  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Barely any time in the original was spent in the “present” - there was one episode where the B-plot has Al appear (in full Navy uniform no less) before a congressional committee to try to secure continuing funding and other than that I don’t recall any other episode spending any significant amount of time in the “present”. Occasional scenes in later episodes might see Al try to get some information out of the person Sam leaped into in the “waiting room” and that was basically about it. It was really very occasional stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    There was the episode where Al and Sam switched places. So we got to see Sam back home for a bit until he had to leap again to save Al.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,021 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Black, yep. Asian, yep, non binary, yep, white woman, yep.



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