Ukraine (Mod Note & Threadbanned Users in OP)

Russia hasn't changed it's tactics or doctrine since the 1950's there not going to change now , hence why the prefer a Syria or Chechnya where they can bomb cities back to the Stoneage unopposed,

There is no way in hell they will go for a Nato country,they would face anilation

The 2014 rebellion was not a coup. It was as legitimate a rebellion as 1830, 1848 and 1789. There have been elections held since in Ukraine which have confirmed the pro-western trend of the populace. Any inquiry of Ukranians resident in Ireland would confirm this.

This has been answered a million times on this thread now. Hammering the Russian army to the ground could lead to a desperate Russia sending nukes

If the Russians do what they seem intent on doing - and go for Kyiv (replay the battle of stalingrad live on Twitter) - we have entered a New Cold War at that point. (imho)

In so far as western intervention - i would sanction ANY ACTION against Russia - short of actually engaging in a war with them - im sorry. I know how that sounds. Im going to place a link - its from a reviewer/writer who researched MAD/Deterrence for a book - he felt moved to put a video up discussing the scenarios - I hope the mods are ok with it. I have been talking deterrence/escalation here and elsewhere, and its hard to talk about. Emotions running high - anyway - have a look, see what u think

@handlemaster - just directly to you. I want to say i agree morally with you - Please dont think of me as an appeaser or what not. Happy to debate of course but there are no hard feelings 100% i hope

I am genuinely APPALLED by what is happening. I just want it to end. Its insane.

Could you remind me of the difference between a coup an a legitimate rebellion again?

Using armed force to overthrow a democratically elected government is a “legitimate rebellion”?

Please go to the Trump thread. Some idiots there are calling what happened in Washington on January 6th an attempted coup! Imagine that!

Ukraine not exporting grain or food this year, understandably so but by God it's going to drive the price of food high.

People have absolutely no idea how big the food crisis is going to be globally in the next 2 years.

The Government here are talking about expanding grain. Every one in Agriculture here is wondering how we'll maintain output close to anything we have now. Nevermind increasing output to meet some of the immense global short fall.

Your dead right all those eminent historians do credit USSR (not Russia my bad) I was more thinking of the prevailing myth in each country among the population most of whom read none of those authors.

I didn't say NATO are rolling over Russia and battering down the gates of the Kremlin - that's a ridiculous extension.

Putin & his administration would have to be absolutely off their rockers to launch a nuclear attack. The whole idea of nuclear weapons is not to use them, to have them in the background as an existential threat. But Putin voicing that threat has shot his bolt - you can do this once and it's received with shock & awe. But not multiple times.

Wheat needs to be sown in the next 3-5 weeks.

If i were in government I'd be looking at a line from Louth to Limerick and getting every farmer south of this to grow wheat, oats, barley where possible. Start ploughing fields now.

Sell all beef stock and free up land.

Desperate times call for desperate measures

Won't be a tractor in a field for two weeks a best with the rain at the moment.

Solar panel every large farm shed in the country. Most of them face SW or S anyway.

Same with bogs. Solar panels not wind is the way to go

And you know this 'fact' how?

Do you think pregnant women stop giving birth just because there's a war?

What facts. There are no facts at all in the war according to you. Impossible to know what is going on so your posts are a dead end.

Fact you refused to condemn Russian attacks on medical facilities as verified by the WHO.

You will refuse to condemn the latest Russian attack on a childrens hospital.

Apparently no paratroops were landed around Kiev and had their aircratt shot down. Maybe they are still there. Who knows according to you. No Russian riot police police were shot up by Ukranian military. Despite all the photos of same.

So no discussion is possible with you. You presented a narrative of Russias plan and refuse to accept any comment on it as as your ostrich in the sand facts standard demands.

If you wonder why nobody replies to any of your posts it will because they have concluded it is impossible to discuss an issue with someone engaging in these hear no evil see no evil debating tricks. As I said you have dead ended and checkmated yourself.