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  • 05-02-2022 7:54pm
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    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,640 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Standard 3 bed semi with garage conversion, approx 140 Sq m currently.


    Adding bedrooms above garage, going into attic to create master bedroom(storage). Relatively large ground floor extension, about 60sqm, underfloor heating in this + existing kitchen area.


    Builders finish, no painting, no kitchen, no flooring etc. 300k incl vat.

    About 100 Sqm of extra space

    Thoughts?



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    mike_2009
    Registered Users Posts: 528 ✭✭✭mike_2009


    Wow - that's nearly the cost of a new house!! Seems about right these days depending on the location?



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    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,640 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Yes.. south county Dublin.

    Should have more quotes late next week, but



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    Chris_5339762
    Registered Users Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    At least you got a quote! Down south we are looking for an extension... got a very rough quote of €50k about 18 months ago.


    Went out looking for builders again, none will quote at all, one said maybe in the summer they'll give a quote, another won't take any bookings until 2023.



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    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,640 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    So got our 2nd quote. 340k, pretty detailed from the builder, but still looking at 400k in total. Waiting on one more, but will be a couple if weeks



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    starbaby2003
    Registered Users Posts: 664 ✭✭✭starbaby2003


    We used a builder who only covers South Dublin. Very happy with them. Not sure of their availability though. They were very competitive.



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    houseyhouse
    Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭houseyhouse


    This sound similar to a project we’d like to do. Can I ask, what is the spec? Eg, will finished house have AluClad windows, A rating, etc?



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    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,640 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118736931#Comment_118736931

    We haven't even looked at windows yet 😂

    But existing house it's pretty well insulated, but not sure we'd get an A rating, we've an open fire



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    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,640 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118733877#Comment_118733877

    Can you PM me their details?



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    houseyhouse
    Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭houseyhouse


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118739747#Comment_118739747

    Fair enough. I suppose I meant are you expecting expensive/high quality finishes for that or more standard finishes. Asking because 400k is definitely more than we wanted to spend so wondering if there’s much fat in that budget.



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    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,640 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118743485#Comment_118743485


    What they've quote isnt far off a builders finish

    In the first quote, no tiling, no hanging of internal doors (if they have glass), no tiling allowance, no painting, no tiling of external area, no install of any windows, no kitchen

    second quote has some allowances for this stuff



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    houseyhouse
    Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭houseyhouse


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118744241#Comment_118744241

    Wow. Good to know. Thanks and best of luck with it!



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    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,640 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118744314#Comment_118744314

    if my luck extends to a lotto win.. thats the type of luck i need!

    Prices are insane tbh



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    houseyhouse
    Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭houseyhouse


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118744316#Comment_118744316

    You and me both!



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    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,640 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    So one of the builders who came last week, recommended we prep for the 3rd floor attic conversion, but not doing it would basically knock 100K off our price, which seems nuts



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    Gusser09
    Registered Users Posts: 6,832 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    WOW.

    The devil is in the detail though. A redesign and simplifying certain aspects might save a pile of money.


    We had our doe last year. Approx 50sqm in total. We didn't go up though and didn't require any structural works to the main house. Literally just build on the side. 2 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms and a utility, Turn key was 70k. Would probably be nearer 100k this year though. Which would have meant not getting it done.



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    society4
    Registered Users Posts: 226 ✭✭society4


    Star baby please can you pm me the name of your builder, thanks



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    houseyhouse
    Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭houseyhouse


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118746170#Comment_118746170

    That seems very good value. We got an estimate from an architect for doing a two-story side extension, adding two bedrooms, two bathrooms, and a utility. Also a rear extension of probably 30sqm. The estimate was 350k. We have to upgrade the whole house at the same time due to the building regs. Would be delighted to get the side done for 100k, never mind 70k!!



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    society4
    Registered Users Posts: 226 ✭✭society4


    Gosh that is a huge quote houseyhouse. Can I ask if you get a 25sq m ext only do you have to upgrade the rest of the house? Although I can’t see the point in having one part of the house uninsulated ....I’ve abandoned my plans to extend and retrofit as the prices are insane. Has anyone got recent reasonable quotes ...surely no one will get work done if it costs this much and will wait until the economy settles ....



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    houseyhouse
    Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭houseyhouse


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118816030#Comment_118816030

    I believe it depends on the percentage of the house that’s getting work. The rule is 25% but I’m not sure how they measure it. The architect did say that a lot of people assume those planning exempt extensions are also exempt from the new regs and that’s not actually the case.



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    Gusser09
    Registered Users Posts: 6,832 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118812030#Comment_118812030

    The only thing I'd say is talk to a builder. Sometimes Architects and Builders prices can vary a lot.



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    houseyhouse
    Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭houseyhouse


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118816030#Comment_118816030

    On your point about nobody going ahead with these prices. We’re in the position where we feel like we don’t have a lot of good options. We’re overcrowded in the house, especially with working from home. There’s nowhere better available to move to really. Anything that’s near schools and big enough for us costs a fortune or needs a lot of upgrading, or both. I’m not sure we could get anything better for our money. We’ll have to see what we can scrape together and what it will get us in a renovation/extension. I don’t want to wait a few years either because our kids are hitting the teens soon. No point doing it when they’ve only a couple of years left at home. No guarantee prices will go down in the next few years either. As I said, no good options in this housing market really.



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    Flinty997
    Registered Users Posts: 11,509 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118818546#Comment_118818546

    I'd be the same. I'm thinking going back into the office might be easier.



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    #24
    houseyhouse
    Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭houseyhouse


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118818636#Comment_118818636

    I’m hoping a garden room office will help make it all work. We’re not in Dublin so remote work has opened a lot of possibilities for us career wise.



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    Furze99
    Registered Users Posts: 10,234 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118818636#Comment_118818636

    Or send a substantial bill to your employer!! :)



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    #26
    houseyhouse
    Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭houseyhouse


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118818649#Comment_118818649

    Wouldn’t that be great!



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    Flinty997
    Registered Users Posts: 11,509 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118818646#Comment_118818646


    True. I'm thinking a job with travel makes it not my problem :)



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    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,640 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    So we've given up. It's basically costing us more to extend that we bought the house for. So we'll sell and buy a bigger house



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    mickdw
    Registered Users Posts: 23,260 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Proper order too.

    Crazy prices and not even a kitchen included.

    As someone involved in building large one off houses in the west, I cry at these prices.

    I know it's a different game but majority of my work would be via self build and many of those self builds 250 sqm with heat pump, heat recovery, underfloor heating, kitchen, connection to services would be coming in under 300k.

    Dublin prices are nuts.



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    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,640 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    We had priced new windows and doors in mid Jan, they were 34k, our potential builder now said they are 52k



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    mickdw
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    Sounds like high spec stuff



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