Russia - threadbanned users in OP

For the numteenth time nato cannot go in ,they are providing logistics , real time intelligence from the air and satellite surveillance ,they are sending in thousands of tons of supplies and medical equipment and fuel ,

They are doing a great job in actually helping the Ukrainians defend themselves without having.to commit boots on the ground.

I've been calling for Nato to assist them on here for best part of 9 years , but it'd not going to happen ,

Something like an F-35? 141 days if you have combat flight experience.

It's terrible but beyond sending weapons and hunanitarian assistance there is nothing else that can be done.

The statements coming from the Ukrainian govt are constantly goading NATO to get involved.

That would be incredibly dangerous for us all.

I understand why they want it but I don't believe for one second western societies are willing to risk a major war with Russia over Ukraine.

All we can do is provide assistance that does not have us in direct confrontation with the Russian military.

Our biggest hope and best option is that the ordinary Russians and Oligarchs see the absolute folly of Putin and oust him.

Hopefully, with a new regime that respects sovereignty of nations, we can work with the ordinary Russians so that we can all benefit from collaboration.

Putin is using his own people like shields, hiding behind them.

I have yet to see a post here universally condemn or wish harm on ordinary Russian people.

You're doing that whataboutery thing wrong btw.

Have you honestly been sitting there this last week, not comprehending that sanctions are designed to cripple the whole country and make it dysfunctional and that the worst affected would be the Russian people?

In Mariupol, they are running out of food, have no heating and are freezing, they have no electricity and families are being wiped out. The supposed ceasfire to allow a humanitarian corridor so civillians could evacuate didn't happen. Big surprise.

On the other side you have well off Russian tourists who have stuck their cards in an ATM and had it spat back out of them.

So yes, screw the ordinary Russians having difficulties at an ATM or hotel desk or in a restaurant. I'm pretty sure tens of thousand hungry and freezing in Mariupol and Kharkiv would happily trade places.

If you have some fluffy headed notion that your ordinary Russians are appalled at what's happening, think again. Some are, but not nearly enough by a wide margin. Did you not read Wibbs account?

Must have been a tight squeeze to get him into the plane.

Why were the Russians willing to fire shells at a nuclear power station? Surely, they must know that another Chernobyl-type disaster would be as bad for them as it would be for the Ukrainians, i.e. the radioactive contamination of wheat fields. They don't expect their 'Ukrainian saboteurs' cover-story about the power station attack to be believed by the rest of the world, do they?!

Just delaying the inevitable except you have one less country on your side when Ukraine falls. I'm sure Poland and the baltics will be delighted to take a shelling for a few days whilst Nato decide at what stage they think it's worth the risk to support them either.

Did we ever figure out why those Russian submarines were snooping around Ireland? We’re not NATO

They're not 'active participants'. Countries supply each other with weapons all the time (usually by means of arms sales, but there's nothing to say it can't be free).

How do people still not understand that NATO implementing a no fly zone will lead to WW3

Germany is a success story. It shed its shackles and is a fine democracy now. Surely there is hope…

I can't find it now, but days ago, there were images of a far distant naval ship with significant smoke rising from it, that was said to be a Russian naval vessel that had been hit with a Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missile.