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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭BruteStock


    A rare Trump ordered air strike turned Soleimani into salami.

    When Joe Biden orders an air strike he takes out an innocent aid worker and 9 members of his family. Imagine being so ensconced in your own tribalism that you can rip Trump all daylong and not ever be critical of Biden. Real people can see the feverish double standards a mile off and thats why the Dixiecrats will get trounced in the upcoming elections 🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,616 ✭✭✭Cody montana




  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,929 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Not for a moment forgiving the US for the indiscriminate use of drone strikes , but Trump used them WAY more than previously and we know nothing about how good/bad or otherwise they were in terms of civilian casualties because Trump banned the publication of the details.

    I somehow doubt that Military Intelligence and/or Drone accuracy was somehow different under Trump than before or after - We know about the Biden failure because they made it public , Trump didn't make anything public.

    Also - Dixiecrats? - Democrats haven't been called that in decades.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,779 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    ignurnt perhaps? Dixiecrats? Really? Who calls the south Dixie anymore? Even Mississippi removed the stars and bars from their state flag.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,976 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    How do you know the results of trumps drone strikes or even how many there were? Trump stopped reporting on them half way through his term.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Tune in to reality ffs.

    Who was President in 2017 can you remind me?

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    And plenty people find fault with Biden. They do it on the Biden thread and they do it because they aren't cult members.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,779 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    S. E. Cupp had a piece about this in the Sun Times, you can dig through the numbers if you work really hard at it.

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2019/5/8/18619206/under-donald-trump-drone-strikes-far-exceed-obama-s-numbers


    Summarizing: More under #2xIMPOTUS than predecessors. "Rare" maybe applies to steaks but not strikes by #2xIMPOTUS.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,779 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    I learned ages ago you don't get to dictate the tone of discussion on an open Internet forum. If it offends your sensibilities, that's for you to work on.


    The post in question that those comments targeted has received many serious answers. Unfortunately, given the OP in question, I doubt the serious feedback will be addressed. Much like not being able to answer direct questions due to fears of banning because, well, you never actually specified the specific warnings or reasons, we've got your word on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,019 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    You get gold for the gymnastics as you dodged questions



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,929 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    I know the news cycle has been consumed with infinitely more important things of late , but is it just me or has "Truth Social" been an utterly damp squib thus far?

    I haven't seen any reference to it - Trump doesn't seem to have posted on it (or at least I haven't seen a post of his referenced by anyone anywhere) despite having lots to say recently , not least his attendance at CPAC etc.

    The only thing I've seen about it was the fact that they had banned an account called "Devin Nunes Cow" before it had even posted anything - Go Free Speech!!

    How long before we add "Truth Social" to this already lengthy list of Failures & Bankruptcies?

    • Trump Steaks
    • GoTrump 
    • Trump Airlines
    • Trump Vodka
    • Trump Mortgage
    • Trump: The Game
    • Trump Magazine
    • Trump University
    • Trump Ice 
    • The New Jersey Generals 
    • Tour de Trump 
    • Trump Network 
    • Trumped!
    • Trump Taj Mahal 
    • Trump’s Castle
    • Trump Plaza Casinos
    • Trump Plaza Hotel 
    • Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts 
    • Trump Entertainment Resorts


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Just wondering which side of the fence I'm on. What is your definition of a woke Irish person?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,981 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Most of Trump's failures came after his biggest successes. He doesn't learn from them, because one of his biggest failures is thinking that putting his name on something means it'll be successful. Leaving aside the obvious Don Jr. joke, his company owned hundreds of millions, if not billions in real estate, and he put his name on a brand of f*cking steaks because he thought so long as he was on the ad, it'd be successful. His university was a scam. He failed at operating casinos which are damn near licences to print money.

    He doesn't learn from his failures. He's far too arrogant for that. If he fails, something else is to blame, not him.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,929 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Setting aside the stupid "woke" guff , of course risks need to be taken and not all will come off.

    However , his win/loss ratio is WAY out of whack.

    The legacy real-estate business that his father built (A horrible person , but a savvy businessman non the less) does reasonably well , although from what has been seen so far from his tax returns - not that well.

    However , without exception every single business started by Donald J Trump has crashed and burned or is limping along losing money each and every year propped up by repeated re-financing , which is why the Mazars statements are so utterly catastrophic for him.

    None of his Hotels/Golf Courses are profitable and all of the Trump-This and Trump-That ventures have collapsed leaving debts and failures in their wake.

    The only two things that he personally started that have been profitable are The Apprentice (when he pretended to be a successful Businessman on TV) and Politics through his creaming off huge amounts of money from the various PAC's etc.

    He is a spoofer and a Bullsh!t artist - he's very good at both of those , but an "Entrepreneur" he is not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,308 ✭✭✭✭everlast75



    "One thing woke people dont get...especially woke Irish people ...is that entrepreneurship requires failure in order to succeed. The skills you need to succeed cannot be learned in a book - they can only be learned from making mistakes.

    If businesses didn't fail there would be state managed markets (communism)

    Which neatly explains the type of person who hates Trump, actually. The bureaucrats, the corporate drones and the apparatchiks who could not survive by themselves

    Its no wonder they cant form an individual thought. Its no wonder they only repeat soundbites from the hive-mind."


    The irony of this poster complaining about "soundbites". Beyond parody

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,779 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    So, Cognitive, what do you think the future holds for Trump?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,507 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    WhoMadeGod was the last fella around here with a fetish for woke people, he never made coherent points either.

    I guess putin is now your anti-woke demi-god to follow? You know, after he cuckolded trump to the level that trump is praising him for invading another country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,507 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    This has been the thing with trump, anyone who knew him from before the presidential run, also knew he was a failed business man who lost his daddys money rescued by becoming a reality tv star.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,981 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Becoming President is based on popularity, nothing to do with business. Regardless, a huge achievement. Never claimed otherwise.

    However you ignored my point about his numerous business failures, which aren't based on failures required to learn how to succeed, but are just failures, or at worst, scams. He profited off some of the failures because he let others (investors, shareholders, banks) take the losses. And they came after he was successful. He doesn't learn from his failures, he just scams others into failing more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 323 ✭✭arthursway


    They do? Don't make me laugh.

    I asked you what your faults with Biden and you blamed fox news for Bidens poor ratings. 🤣

    Everlasts only criticsm of Biden when asked was that he hasn't packed the supreme court.

    So get off those high horses there my Blue friends.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    I wonder how Trump would have fared if his daddy hadn't given him the equivalent of $413,000,000.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Sure. Poor people's brothers unfortunately do the same. So, Trump with $413,000,000 or Trump with $0?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    I'm pretty sure I didn't.

    I don't know was it to you or someone else, but I've already said that Biden should have done way more to honour election campaign promises and in particular to ensure voting rights.

    I said that he should have done more to make it obvious that Sinema and Manchin were and are obstructionists and I was very vocal in denouncing the decision to take money from Afghanistan to pay the families of victims of 911.

    But, I think he has done very well in lots of ways and as someone living in the US, I am delighted that he is President. It's been incredibly refreshing to see political commentary being done in the correct way without him trying to make himself the center of attention or to be using very serious topics as a way to fight a different battle. The more we see diplomacy done appropriately, the more shameful Trump looked. And I can say that without saying that the current President or anyone else is 100% perfect. No one is, but Trump was further from it than any President in any of our lifetimes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Trump's father wasn't a good person. It's why Trump's brother developed alcoholism and Trump developed narcissism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,914 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Entrepreneurs dont have time to spend hours and hours each day giving out about Trump or "The Right" on the internet.

    I suspect most of the people who do this, do so on their employers time.

    Something to while away the day, engaging in ideolology and virtue signalling.

    These people are in for a rude awakening, Capitalism is dog eat dog as is politics.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,929 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Oh right.. So after 50 years in multiple failed businesses those profits are just around the corner are they?

    In the Amazon example , they weren't profitable because they were re-investing the money in expansion and innovation - They were always making money.

    Trumps businesses weren't profitable because they were sh!te and were losing money hand over fist.

    I mean just look at some of them?

    Trump Steaks - Below average quality Steaks bought on the open market and then sold at a crazy markup (4 steaks and 12 burgers for $200!!!! , 15 years ago) in Sharper Image ,a Technology/Gadget shop.

    I mean of course you'd want to buy some steak alongside that electric massage cushion , the combination is obvious!!.

    That business lasted about 8 weeks before it went bust. (May to July 2007)

    I repeat - Not a SINGLE business idea from Donald J Trump has EVER been successful or profitable , not one - 50+ years of abject failure in business.

    His only skill is as a con-man and a liar - He has the business acumen of a pebble.



    After being disowned & demeaned by Daddy Trump for refusing to go into the family business and just wanting to go off to be a pilot.

    Being born into Wealth doesn't mean much , being given hundreds of millions of dollars over years and years to prop up your repeatedly failing "businesses" means a hell of a lot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    How about the people giving out about woke libtards? Each and every one a millionaire?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,054 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    @Quin_Dub His only skill is as a con-man and a liar

    In fairness, he has been quite good at that.

    But then, there are legions of gullible fools out there that are willing to give their unquestioning allegiance to him and empty their pockets too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,161 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    I'm assuming "woke" means someone who doesn't view the world in 100% tangerine Trump-O-Vision? A child can see that Trump is at best a third rate used car salesman. Without his father's Ill gotten gains to get started, that's where Donnie would be today. Even with Daddys millions to get him started, he seems to continually go out of his way to prove that he's a terrible businessman. There is not one thing Trump can't somehow mess up. If he was a chef he'd find a way to burn water. But it's always someone elses fault. We don't just understand his genius. And yet despite all of this, his cultists see him as some sort of successful Alpha Male businessman. If the consequences of the unwavering slavish devotion to this serial lying man child weren't so damaging; I'd be laughing at you. Unfortunately I can't laugh at you, so I'll pity you instead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,914 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    I repeat - Not a SINGLE business idea from Donald J Trump has EVER been successful or profitable , not one - 50+ years of abject failure in business.

    What a sweeping statement.

    Its completely incorrect like most of the stuff you come out with.

    Trump Tower, Grand Hyatt Hotel, 40 Wall Street, Trump Place, Mar a Lago, Trump International Tower Chicago,Trump Models, The Apprentice and most of his golf courses were all very good investments and highly profitable.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Tippex


    Just to be clear Mark Burnett created the apprentice. Trump was just the name / figure head for it (i have no idea how much input trump had into the show)



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