Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Can imagine the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists might be thinking about inching the Doomsday Clock a significant number of seconds closer to midnight. Surreal talk from Putin.

I wonder too with the horror being perpetrated on the Ukrainian people and the threats that the rest of the world face going forward…would there be anybody in Russia or the Russians themselves be willing to turn on and take out putin…? All his advisers, civilian and military cannot be all ok with this madness..

I’ve no issues whatsoever in the aftermath of this a complete blockade being enforced for a number of years..

any Russian in the EU can stay put or make their way back home by land but zero travel and zero business done between the EU and Russia…

no Russian airlines given flight plans over Europe , no nothing… as long as a threat exists and Putin or somebody Putinesque is in power.

I think it's stupid where they're meeting, which is effectively in the middle of a war zone. What was wrong with Zelensky's suggestion of meeting in a neutral city?

Anyway Zoom's a thing nowadays. Is a physical meeting even totally necessary between delegations?

I don't think the west will do if he does. One thing you know that if he did use them the west knows he did use them and would I think not get involved any further as would be nuclear war, I just can't see them getting into that but I can see Russia becoming if they do more isolated, more or less north Korea if they do go that route.

So many ridiculous and insane comments to see here: someone needs to nuke Russia now! someone needs to assassinate Putin in a coup! We're not living in a Holywood movie.

All that's clear is that things have moved very quickly to an unsustainable stage. As Russia apparently wants to annex the whole of Ukraine it can't back out now without looking weak. But for people who think this shows how feeble the Russian army is, I think they're mistaken. These guys have fought alongside Assad for the last few years testing countless new weapons. They can destroy Ukraine if they want even without nuclear weapons, the question is whether Putin is willing to become the Assad of Europe. Surprisingly, they seem to be making an effort not to deliberately target civilians so far. That could change quickly.

Meanwhile I agree with the poster above who says European and other NATO countries openly sending weapons to Ukraine is getting dangerously close to direct involvement in the war even without putting troops there.

It's hard to see an easy way out right now. Putin can't back down, Ukraine definitely won't back down. I don't think there will be nuclear war, but make no mistake if Russia is destroyed it will take a lot of the world, including all of Europe with it.

Stop it. I know 2 Russians. Lovely people. Totally against what has happened. One was even outside the Russian embassy yesterday.

The Cold war went on for so long because the people thought that we hated them.

unfortunately Putin does not seem to be a rational actor and he is surrounded by useful idiots

That would be a terrific propaganda win for Putin and massively increase his support at home. Where do people get these ideas.