The ironic kicker being that the ICBM with the radio gear setting off all the other silos was designed and built in Ukraine.
Russians including ordinary citizens living in countries througout thw world should be sent home. Let them kniw that if the ordinary man and woman in Russia arent going to help in ousting Putin then they have no place in a civilised society. Putin will only be removed and dealt with internally.
yes but would appeal to many many independents and even democrats , granted that doesnt count for anything in the primaries
I wonder too with the horror being perpetrated on the Ukrainian people and the threats that the rest of the world face going forward…would there be anybody in Russia or the Russians themselves be willing to turn on and take out putin…? All his advisers, civilian and military cannot be all ok with this madness..
I’ve no issues whatsoever in the aftermath of this a complete blockade being enforced for a number of years..
any Russian in the EU can stay put or make their way back home by land but zero travel and zero business done between the EU and Russia…
no Russian airlines given flight plans over Europe , no nothing… as long as a threat exists and Putin or somebody Putinesque is in power.
He is hated by trump supporters, doesn't stand a chance. Relative to other republicans he seems like a decent man though.
Can imagine the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists might be thinking about inching the Doomsday Clock a significant number of seconds closer to midnight. Surreal talk from Putin.
Their body language suggests they are feeling a lot of stress, Putin seemed chill.
These are the American steps to launch from a submarine
In any circumstance a submarine commander would have to go ahead with it.
Every nuclear nation would have to have a multi agreement process in place to avoid a false flag incident. Even the Rocketman in North Korea probably has a process in place to avoid sabotage.
Vlad won't just have a button in his office. He will have his keys, suitcase and codes but it will have to be verified by somebody in a submarine or a missile silo.
If there is any internal strife within the Russian power, it wouldn't take much to change that piece of paper with the codes without him knowing.
Chernobyl was on the route to Kyiv, strategically important for many reasons
If they do that Russia will be massively affected by the radiation. But if has gone nuts maybe he will or maybe he just wants to seem to a mad man capable of such an action, he is all about that propaganda life after all.
Putin has really really f*cked up Russia. Nato countries, even the US, were never ever a realistic military threat to the territory of Russia. They weren't bothered. He got to run his mob-state with an approved list of oligarchs pretty much unimpeded. Then he thought he saw a real estate opportunity in Ukraine...
"Ordering me to do what now??"
the soviets interfered by way of support in countless conflicts where the USA were involved , as did America where the Soviets were fighting , this did not constitute direct involvement to either super power , Putin is different but even by his own historical " lines in the sand " conditions , he has no grounds to launch
No I didn't misinterpret. I'm just pointing out that the repercussions for Russia and Russian people on Russian soil would be massive should something hit NATO territory. Granted, they are proud of sacrificing their people against the German onslaught back in the day but enough near the top might baulk at the thought of destroying so many needlessly now.
He flopped in 2012 no?
Tbh I do quite like him as well but can't see it
We may be be but I think you just wanted an excuse to play that song! If he does go nuclear he'll have another 30 countries to deal with and likely the complete end of Russia as a military power.
It'll be brave lads that do go. It's either a peace deal or the delegation gets detained or worse.
Hope they send the Klitschko brothers along with them as muscle.
IF, and its a big if, Putin nukes part of Ukraine to get the West to back off, it pretty much means Russia becomes a pariah state at least as long as Putin is in charge. Not a great strategy.
If he uses a nuke of course the west will be forced to retaliate and will retaliate with much more force. Standing back is not an option.
I sincerely hope it doesn't come to this but I am prepared mentally that it may well.
And this is off the basis that Putin is not a rational person right now. The Russian generals better get working to take him out.
You seem to have misinterpretated my question. I know that NATO will not go into Russia, or even to Ukraine. My question was, with NATO sending so many supplies into Ukraine, at what point does a flailing, desperate, under pressure Putin decide that he may as well go all in on a NATO country given they're currently so heavily involved anyway....
And I say this as a resident of a NATO country bordering Ukraine
Been more than a few Putin-supporters on this forum for years. That's fine, free speech. But they are very meek now I've noticed.
Zelensky won't attend; most likely, it'll be a delegation representing him.
Don’t think he will go personally. He will send a delegation.
What is the likely hood of a Russian civil war is putin is stopped by someone in Russia
I hope they left the keys in them and that the Ukrainians can get them out an put them to good use.
More EU countries have now closed their airspace to Russian airliners, Turkey sounding off like they are about to close the strait to Russian warships possibly
Is he a sociopath or a psychopath? I think the latter is generally considered worse, which is why I think he's the latter.
I see people calling him insane - I think that's the easy way out. A psychopath can be very rational. The question is working out what it is that he (and it's usually a he) wants.
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