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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    RTÉ are not accountable to PAC, PAC brought them in under employment practices at the company.

    RTÉ have some accountability to the The Committee on Media, very little really.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I agree with this and the tweet is slightly facetious.

    RTÉ have a tendency to hype 3 or so shows.

    IMO RTÉ seem to think that the following brands are most important :-

    RTÉ Radio 1

    The Late Late Show

    The Late Late Toy Show

    RTÉ ONE

    After that there is very little in terms of marketing.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,163 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    RTÉ are not accountable to PAC, PAC brought them in under employment practices at the company.

    @RoTelly yeah, I'm well aware of the reason Forbes was asked to come before the PAC ^



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Running RTÉ wouldn't scare me, would start tomorrow, though I probably be very busy, undoing the current mess :)


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,483 ✭✭✭garrettod


    ... Please delete..

    Thanks,

    G.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,173 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Really should be a whine warning before George Lee comes on. Something like a siren and a big red triangle and someone shouting, "George is coming, we are all doomed"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭glenfieldman


    Another great reason for not paying this stupid tax

    RTE are all over this Russia war, but the 6 news cannot cut from the rehashed 1 news to cover live stream from the UN like all other MSM

    amateurs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Stovepipe


    RTE pushing Irish Water big style; Eco eye was basically a free ad for IW and tonight's news was another. Stand by for water charges...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,173 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    EcoEye is pure fantasist muck from the delusional mind of Duncan Stewart who was dropped on his head in Chermobyl. 10 minutes of it is enough for the most demure viewer to be shouting at the telly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    This is bought in by RTÉ is largely funding by various semi-state bodies not sure about IW, but EPA and the like "sponsor" it.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,667 ✭✭✭jippo nolan




  • Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    How many more episodes of the current series of The Tommy Tiernan Show are there to go? How hard did RTÉ look in their search for someone to present a Saturday night chat show?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    They had 16 last year so 6 more to go? They previously had just 10 episodes.

    Big write up in the SBPost today.

    Really RTÉ have no plans to do anything to help themselves, rather lobby the government as to what funding they should get and what services they should be providing.

    If I do nothing and just go with the flow, should I pretend that I am having an existential crisis because everything around me is not going my way and I feel like I am look down on myself unable to change because everyone else is to blame. Or should I look at what I have an make the most of it?


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭rightmove


    And sure didnt his daughter get a presenting gig also.

    Well its rte after all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    So according to the Sunday Times RTÉ have put out a tender for Mass for their news channel.

    Mass was original placed on the news channel as part of the Covid response. Personally I see no problem with mass being available RTÉ ONE or Radio 1 on Sunday Mornings, indeed I have no problem with Services (protestant) been broadcast on Sundays. I even support the Angelus. And I can see the reason for Daily mass during the COVID pandemic for older people on the News channel. But even from my perspective I don't see the reason to waste money on a service that can be got from numerous outlets from Radio Maria to local streams of Masses around the country. I say all of this to avoid the arguments that come with religion on PSB/M.

    The RTÉ News channel is pure muck, surely this money would be better spent improving the service rather than a daily mass, sure why not have a daily national anthem played live by the RTÉ CO?

    It wouldn't take much to improve the RTÉ News channel. Remove the tickers and replace with one ticker along the bottom of the screen, by the RTÉ news logo. Add weather and currency info to top left of the screen, with the time to the top right and social media details in the right hand corner. Schedule repeats of sports highlight programmes after the news such as Against the Head and The Sunday Game, have live hourly updates. Bring back late night news to RTÉ2. etc etc.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    One other massive problem with RTÉ is the lifers that don't move.

    There are many in managerial positions who are in the same position as they were 20 to 25 years ago.

    It is similar to their News Correspondents, only that Damien Teirnan, Ciarnan Mallooly and Ingrid Miley left their positions did RTÉ get different people to takeover those roles. As I said there are many correspondents reporting on the same issues as they did 10, 20 and even 30 years ago.

    This seems to be the case for many more. The previous Head of Children's TV was their for nearly 20 years, one of the scheduling managers has had her position since 1999, another manager for imports and co-pros is there since at least 1998, the Executive Producer for Fair City is there since 2004 at least if not more. Surely with all of their experience they could move from one area to the next will little hinderance and provide a differing view when the do move.

    And then there seems to be the cult of RTÉ, no one can do wrong, this is RTÉ. Seems to me that they are defensive on the slightest bit of criticism. For example when the BBC announce a logo change a UK Twitter user posted an image of the RTÉ logo, asking if any other broadcasters should change their logo as they haven't changed in the last 25 years, an RTÉ employee insisted that the logo has changed, but it clearly hasn't, and finished a reply to another twitter user with "I really don't care", which was then bizarrely liked by another RTÉ employee?


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    So just to mention, TLLS was not in great shape audience wise prior to the death of Gay Byrne, Marian Finnucane etc in 2019. Those shows pre-date the covid and caused TLLS to gain audiences, or to bring back audiences. Then Covid hit and again TLLS gain an audience and kept it pretty much through out.

    In feb 2022 a massive decline in audiences for TLLS that not even a St. Val's special could rescue.

    Then the sad news of the invasion of Ukraine by Russia hits and audiences return.

    And the cynic in me thinks they couldn't possible run another show or guest about the Ukrainian war, but then the cynic thinks that the addition of the Mary Presidents might just be a ploy to raise TLLS audience.

    Cynical?


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ^^^^

    No, just realistic and spot on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,433 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Possibly.

    It's a bit early to say though.

    If you just wait a couple of hours you can decide but don't be too hard on yourself.

    Interesting though that we have a chat show with two former Presidents, both of them women and hugely accomplished in their careers.

    Not many countries would have that to look forward to on a Friday night.

    I for one will be watching.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It's unfortunate that they must suffer though an interview with Tubrity.

    Of course turning ones cynicism against them by mention the accomplishments of the guests and not that of the problem of TLLS and its host.

    Reminds me of a tweet last week that suggest the late late was so good tonight they were not going to hear a bad word against it!

    Happy to not watch the show ever.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,433 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    You suggested you might be a cynic, not me.

    I didn't say tonight's LLS will be good.

    How could I before it even starts.

    Little point in discussing it later with you if you don't watch it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Yeah, but don't use it against me :)

    I tend to stop watching shows/programmes when I stop liking them, if I ever liked TLLS.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,433 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Actually makes sense.

    Me too.

    There are programmes I wouldn't watch if you paid me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 40,034 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Most of RTE's output falls into that category

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Why was it thought necessary to apologise for the language the Ukrainian MP was using? In the Indo, Ian O'Doherty asked who gave that instruction - he believes that someone told Claire via her earpiece to, as I quote from Ian, "back it up"? If that's what happened, Claire could have disregarded the instruction, couldn't she?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,667 ✭✭✭jippo nolan


    A tailor’s dummy would be an improvement on her interviewing skills!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,433 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    At least extra.ie had a little shred of decency and put "apologising" in inverted commas.

    There was no apology you are getting worked up over a non story from an unreliable source.



  • Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Quite unbelievable that Claire should apologise, with or without the quote marks. She simply isn't up to the task. Between her and Brendan O'Connor with his constant "apologies" for comments made by interviewees, RTE really needs to look at issuing an apology itself, for failing to employ people who are up to the job.

    I'm not hankering for a Paxman-like approach to the job, but for pity's sake get Sarah McInerney back on running that 10 - 12 slot. Claire is suitable for a light magazine programme. She might do a better job between 3 and 4.30.

    Hmm, I'm enjoying reorganising the RTE presenters.... Someone needs to do it and there's no sign that any of the current RTE exec team rolling their sleeves up and doing it. There are generations of group think in that particular team.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    If Claire didn’t apologise the same people would be on social media crying about the language on the show.

    Websites like “extra”? A plague on every country because all they make up is lies to get clicks. How many people actually complained? 1 or 2?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    RTÉ executives don't actually know anything about RTÉ. They don't know what shows the produced, they don't know what cuts they have made, they don't understand the Broadcasting Act 2009. Claire Byrne would be a good Irish version of Victoria Derbiersher or Anne Robinson, suited to morning TV. But then RTÉ executives possibly beleive RTÉ has a morning TV show!


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

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