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Schools and Covid 19 (part 5) **Mod warnings in OP**

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  • Posts: 895 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    And “it says more about those places”. What a nasty comment. You don’t subscribe to the mask every living thing and you get comments like that.

    Making a comment like that says more about yourself than those places. Thankfully, public health now agree it’s all nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    lol What school are you working in? The student so teach will drop them in the morning. Vast majority it teachers too.

    If anyone wishes to continue wearing one then I’ll respect that, as people should respect the fact I don’t want to wear one. The desire to push masks on others is something I’ll never figure out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭Birdy


    Another 9,441 cases today. With such high community spread, I don't think it's the right time to be telling people to ditch the masks.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/back-to-school-live-updates/2021/09/10/1035954587/yes-gov-desantis-studies-do-show-masks-curb-covid-19-in-schools?t=1645119408770



  • Posts: 895 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There’ll never be a magic number that people feel is okay to end things. Maybe if we waited til Sunday and there was a couple of thousand, would it be ok then?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭M_Murphy57



    Or so many children have caught it and recovered both masks and wuhan vaccines are pointless.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,475 ✭✭✭✭josip


    ...and NPHET said they're gone. Time to get back on with living and stop hiding behind the masks.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2022/0217/1281314-coronavirus-ireland/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    What a day. Can’t wait to head in to work with no mask. Back to normality. If you’re still nervous wear a couple of masks and keep distance, just don’t look down on those who are ploughing on without one.

    There should be respect for those who want to wear one and vice versa.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Vaccinated30


    I can't wait to see my children's teachers faces! I've never seen any of the teachers they have now without a mask.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    Can't wait! Pods are gone also apparently. So the kids can all mix again! First day back after midterm ill need getting rid of that plastic screen I've had to sit behind for the last 18 months.


    Totally agree that respect should work both ways. No judgement on how every one chooses to proceed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,584 ✭✭✭✭km79


    I moved schools September 2020

    Ive never seen anyones faces . Staff or students

    So happy with this



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭Birdy


    This is a poll from a teachers only forum.

    Poll: Will you continue to wear a mask in school?

    Yes: 56%

    No: 44%



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    That is very sad. Oh well. The 56% have the choice to do so. That’s the main thing.



  • Posts: 895 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It’s a good start. 45% of teachers immediately not having to teach through a mask is a lot of kids benefitting. Another 20-30% of them will follow when they see the world hasn’t ended.

    As you said, the choice is there. That’s the main thing.



  • Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Christine Loscher told Claire Byrne on Wednesday (19 minutes into this clip) that the most recent data indicates that the immunity that people who have recovered from Omicron have from re-infection with that variant is poor and that vaccination for those who've recovered from Omicron provides additional protection against possible future variants and, regarding the perception that infection is not a big deal for children, mentioned 'long Covid'.

    https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/clips/22063555/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭JP100


    I wouldn't take that poll at face value. It will be alot more than 45% and in alot of schools, I would expect it to be upwards of 80% of school staff not wearing masks after the mid term when the new diktat has officially gone through.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Mad that the masks in schools will likely be gone after mid-term. Or might staff still be expected to wear them? Would obviously be utterly pointless if the kids aren't, but I imagine some schools/principals might advise their staff to stick with them for the time being?



  • Posts: 895 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Indeed - just trying to find the positive in that made up poll! At the very worst I’d say half the staff will be rid immediately, as you said, more like 70 or 80% really, as Twitter and Facebook polls aren’t a measure of real life.

    On the last post, I can’t see many schools other than the small minority of militant ones looking for staff to retain them. After all, we’re all adults here - principals, teachers, SNA’s, support staff, we all have the choice to make.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,771 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    Have you any scientific proof of that? Just because there were fewer cases in older classes is not scientific proof.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,584 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Schools will continue to follow whatever public health advice is issued to them

    if it’s masks are optional then that is what will be the case

    No principal can enforce anything else



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    They can advise all they want, you don’t have to wear one, it’s personal choice now and rightly so.

    And masks are definitely gone, not likely. As are all other mitigation measures in schools.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭noplacehere


    I’d suspect most staff will take them off once numbers drop a bit further if not straight away. Right now catching it still means time off, they’ve cut the sick leave for it and childcare issues so that will keep them. Add in the VHR (me) and pregnant staff that’s a fair few.

    If the numbers in the community were lower even Id take it off but a little longer is worth it. I want to make it to the summer without catching it (or anything else) as all my classes are under pressure time wise, there’s no qualified subs and I don’t want to use up sick leave



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,042 ✭✭✭Van.Bosch


    No one is telling people to ditch the masks. They are moving to advised, so it’s personal choice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭Deeec


    My kids school still has staggered collection times. Hopefully this can be dropped soon as well. It never made sense to me - it just led to parents and collected children chatting and playing while waiting for older children to come out. 20 mins time difference between youngest and oldest child being let out of school - surely this can stop now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭noplacehere


    Don’t see why not. Our sons primary school decided to reimplement their precovid uniform policy at 7pm on a Tuesday night last week. (Under their covid set up the next day was a non uniform day)….



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,917 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    They were switching between uniform and non uniform for covid reasons each week?That would drive me nuts as a clothes-washing parent!I appreciate the rule was probably made when we knew no better but it should have been got rid of a looooooong time ago.

    Our school has been very sensible in comparison!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭noplacehere


    Oh it was actually awesome. Uniform Monday, tracksuit Tuesday, anything Wednesday, uniform Thursday, tracksuit Friday. It was perfect for a single midweek wash and I only had one uniform and one tracksuit which is perfect at this age as he’s growing fast. I did not appreciate needing to get the uniform washed and dried for the next morning. And I’ve had to get an extra uniform now we’re back to four uniform/one tracksuit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Doasisaynotwhatido


    What kind of schools are you sending your kids too...

    3 years ago in my sons school (wouldn't be the most well off area) principal suddenly started ringing parents to collect kids who maybe have wrong shoes, no tie etc

    Parents organised meeting between themselves and all stated if called we wouldn't collect the kids so they would have to stay in school. 1 week later no phone calls to anyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭Comer1


    The kind of schools that has a uniform policy. If you don't like the policy, find a school where the policy suits you.

    If parents refused to adhere to the uniform policy that they would have had to agree to upon registration, and then refuse to collect students they should have been excluded from class.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭Deeec


    Just an update on what I posted last week. We have received a message from the school - staggered collection times remain the same - its not being dropped for the moment.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,909 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    My son's school has staggered drop off times and this year his class is on the 9.10 start. I know it won't suit lots of people but I love it. We don't have to leave the house until 9 and it just makes mornings that bit more chilled out. I'm so happy for him to not have to wear a mask again at school. While he adapted to it better than I'd worried about, I think long term, masks on small children has the potential to damage their social abilities. Facial cues are so important, to everyone, but especially children and I'm glad they won't be missing out on those.

    As for uniforms, nearly every kid in my son's school just wears the tracksuit which can be the official school tracksuit or just a tracksuit from Dunnes/Aldi/Tesco in the right colour. My kid somehow manages to come home everyday covered in mud and grass stains, so I have 5 tracksuit bottoms, 4 tops and several of the polo shirts they wear underneath.



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