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Cork Airport - *Read Mod Note in First Post Before Posting*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭Curb Your Enthusiasm


    Even in the peak of Summer travel reopening last year they had no real F&B offering open.


    Craft Lane and Food Republic have been shuttered since the start of the pandemic - I only noticed Craft Lane had reopened for a few days a week at certain hours for drinks only when I flew through Cork a week or so ago.


    AMT was closed a few weeks ago, and they never have any pastries etc. WHSmith seems to be the only option for actual food in terms of the sandwich meal deal. They also have fairly good Frank and Honest coffee tbf.


    But yeah, it pales in comparison with other EU airports I've been in in recent times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,679 ✭✭✭notAMember


    it's also not available until the summer. Such a pain to get to zurich at the moment, I've to go via LHR or schipol every time. Dublin swiss air flights are a pain in the backside from cork due to the time of day... was in a delightful 4 hour traffic jam on a friday evening from dublin to cork the last time I came home to cork.


    I wish Cork airport would focus on some better european connectivity for basic business travel. Ryanair is all well and good for leisure, but frequent business passengers come from corporate travel, and no corporate policy I've seen uses ryanair. No brussels flight. Is Rome gone too? No non-ryanair flight to italy at all. Nothing to russia. The only german airport served is frankfurt. No flight to berlin, hamburg, dussledorf, munich.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Acosta


    Rome has been gone for several years, even though in my experience at least, it was always busy. It's odd that Ryanair hasn't given it a go when they have done several other Italian routes the last few summer's, such as Milan, Pisa and Naples. And recently announced a Venice flight.

    Also, I don't think Ryanair have ever had a single German destination out of Cork which again is really odd. Before the pandemic they had two out of Kerry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Hahn was a specific oddity that seemed to serve a few companies and some Germans living in the general area, IIRC. But yes - it would be nice to get something more.


    I flew to Birmingham Saturday at 9am - no food options apart from the coffee dock area and that was mobbed. Its absolutely ridiculous that the two pubs/restaurants are still closed. And the Lounge is still closed too.


    Flying into Cork this morning at about 9am, even the WH Smith in the landside area was closed.



  • Posts: 533 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Is the footfall still that bad? Seems kind of crazy that things aren't reopening at this stage. I've seen a lot of that in the city centre too - venues seem to want to stay shut on Mondays (or Tuesdays) in some cases.

    How are the traffic figures looking for Cork Airport at this stage?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    The pub was open when I flew two weeks ago but I went out in the afternoon. The lounge opened yesterday.

    The CSO used to have brilliant stats for each route from each airport but they have either stopped tracking or changed where they store them because I can't find them anymore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    LGW - Cork today off to Shannon, AMS - Cork today off to Dublin. Wind diversions for both? Presumably passengers bussed down?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Acosta


    Yeah, cross wind. Probably more to come over the next few days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Acosta


    Probably it's just that too many staff are out with covid. Same as many other places in town that have restricted opening due to staff shortages.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Ryanair to announce a 3rd based aircraft at the airport this morning. New routes to Alghero, Pisa and Valencia. Frequency increases on current routes on the way too.

    Great to see Ryanair so bullish about the airport.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 278 ✭✭Douglas Eegit


    That sounds like good news. I did look at flights to Girona in July and they were coming back at €240 each way for just the basic fare. Hopefully this 3rd plane announcement might right this a little



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭lisasimpson


    Good to see this mornings announcement. Some interesting routes for the summer. Nice options rather than travelling to dublin. Are iberia coming back with the madrid route for the summer?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Its Ryanairs for the taking with Aer Lingus quite simply not being arsed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,896 ✭✭✭Cork Lass




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    [quote]Seven new routes will operate this summer to Alghero (Sardinia), Birmingham, Edinburgh, Manchester, Pisa, Valencia and Venice.[/quote]


    Edinburgh, Birmingham and Manchester are already running, gutter journalism.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    There’s capacity increases on those though. Edinburgh is daily now, Manchester twice daily and Liverpool upto 5pw in summer (extra Sunday flight - more practical).

    Ryanair eating Emerald/EI’s lunch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭DylanQuestion


    Really great news. Still no sign of Rome, but hopefully this might scare Aer Lingus into it? Although as others said, they don't seem to care. Any idea what kind of PAX this could give? The Echo article says this is their most flights from Cork ever. Still awaiting 2021 PAX



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,501 ✭✭✭Masala


    wasn't that long ago that MOL stated that they had no plans for Cork because of the DAA charges and was belittling them!.... WELL WELL!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭lisasimpson


    I think its clear AL arent overly pushed. Hopefully some of the other European airlines take an interest in routed too. While these are welcome additions for Cork the lack of regular services to major European centres such as Rome, Madrid, Berlin, Brussels stand out. Hopefully in time these can be addressed. Surprised Lisbon hasnt returned.

    One thing that drives me mad about route announcements for the airport wish the routes would be announced a few weeks earlier. People start planning and booking in January so midsing out on business there

    Post edited by lisasimpson on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭DylanQuestion


    AirFrane going to six times per week from the end of the month. Is this up from their pre-COVID schedule?

    https://twitter.com/CorkAirport/status/1499358044358160391?s=20&t=LjEGhiJHS6Vm1KXufiikwg



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭lisasimpson


    Good news pitty service doesnt cover oct mid term. Hopefully things stay going the way they are and 2nd level school tours etc will be back with a bang euro Disney was v popular midterm just gone too.

    Still no word on Iberia Express take it no madrid this summer



  • Registered Users Posts: 3 2Beamzplz


    The more I think about it and given the paltry offering by aer Lingus this summer, the sale of the remaining stake by the government was a major strategic mistake



  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭TheBetsy


    Before Covid came I'm pretty sure AF's plan for S20 was to operate twice daily from Cork with an aircraft night stopping.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,575 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    They had 2 flights per day on sale a few months back but cut it back to 6 a week.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Are the passenger numbers still that low ? I mean at this stage it’s a bit of a joke that there’s no catering in Cork Airport. They would want to be looking into why and getting it re-started. A LOT of money was put into those facilities a few years ago.

    For a small airport, Cork used to always have decent enough food options. I find this shut everything due to COVID approach is a bit problematic in Ireland compared to other places. Same on Irish Rail, you can’t even get a coffee.

    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭.red.


    A few of the places tried reopening but the old staff had moved on and they couldn't get new staff in, on the wages being offered.

    Some supermarkets are offering €12.50- €13+ph and some have time and a half on Sundays. The food places in the airport, as well as some of the other companies cant/won't match that. Add in that public transport for a 4/5am start or an 11/12pm finish are non existent except for a taxi and you end up with a severe lack of staff and reduced opening hours.

    Post edited by .red. on


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Sounds like they’ll have to drop the rent or increase the prices… Can’t really just have no catering at all.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    26 commercial flights tomorrow. First day of summer schedule.

    Great to see.

    EI really sweating 2 planes with 4 LHR, 2 AMS and one FAO. Didn’t think I’d see the day where there would be days with 4 flights to Amsterdam.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Acosta


    Yeah, it's good to see alright. However I'd prefer a bit of variety instead of having 9 flights from London in one day. But sure at least it's getting busy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭DylanQuestion


    Any idea of 2021 PAX?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,284 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Just heading to the UK on Friday morning, I hear Dublin airport is chaos for security checks. No such delays at Cork I presume?



  • Registered Users Posts: 31 mike222


    I flew to Manchester Thursday morning, along with other flights, and was through in 5 minutes.

    Returning through Manchester Airport T1 was a nightmare Monday night, worse I've ever experienced. Really makes you appreciate Cork more than ever when you see issues in some of the bigger airports. Now, if we can add a few more destinations, that'd be great🙃



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,284 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Is the bar back open up there



  • Registered Users Posts: 278 ✭✭Douglas Eegit


    Sure is but at limited times. Think the restaurant area is still closed however.


    It appears that this link is updated and accurate




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Craft Lane: Monday to Friday 8am - 430pm. Are they even trying?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭lisasimpson


    Any improvements in facilities at the airport yet. Are the bar and restaurants back to normal yet.



  • Registered Users Posts: 278 ✭✭Douglas Eegit


    Looks up to date. The food court area looks still to reopen. Surprising given the amount of flights.


    Surely they have at least opened the seating up to accommodate the numbers?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    Nope the food court is completely closed off. The pub isn’t doing food either, only drinks. AMT is the only place to get hot food.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,679 ✭✭✭notAMember


    The cheese toastie on board the Aer Lingus flights outbound is decent enough. I know not much of a consolation. But it definitely beats that KLM sambo when there is nothing at all at the airport itself.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 278 ✭✭Douglas Eegit


    That's dire. Didn't realise the pub wasn't doing food.

    Proper pub in that case. Few packs of taytos will have you sorted right out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭Curb Your Enthusiasm


    WH Smith meal deal is a good back up. Brutal that they haven't opened the foodrepublic outlet yet.. 27+ flights most days



  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭TheBetsy


    Great to see a nice few of the Ryanair summer routes seem to be going year round based on the booking system. Bergamo, Bordeaux, Faro, Valencia and Venice all bookable for November on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭Mr.CoolGuy


    Looking to book something around New Years but it's very difficult to get information as the flight schedule hasn't been released. Does anyone know when this will become available or if there is any other way to book a flight? It's only 7 months away which I wouldn't think was so long so as not to have many flight options.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭Curb Your Enthusiasm


    I notice Carcassonne has come back too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,401 ✭✭✭thomil


    The food court was definitely open when I flew out on Sunday morning. Looks like they're only doing breakfast service though, not a full day service.

    To add a little perspective though, I transferred through Amsterdam to Munich on Sunday, and the picture was very similar in Amsterdam airport. Quite a few eateries and bars there were either closed outright or operating with reduced opening hours, including in the food courts! Even the ones that operated at their regular opening hours often had significantly fewer staff available, often not more than 2-3 people, meaning that there were queues throughout the terminal. And yes, that includes places such as Starbucks or McDonalds who would normally have 7-10 people per shift.

    Now, I admit that I don't know how much of that is due to any remaining pandemic restrictions in the Netherlands. but it seems to me as if there's a general struggle to find staff for these places, so I think we can cut Cork airport some slack here.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Lufthansa to Frankfurt on Fridays and Sundays is back tomorrow for the summer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Thats a good one. Can link to Munich easily or just get the train.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,679 ✭✭✭notAMember


    Interesting! my German flights (Hamburg mostly) have been going through LHR up to now. It does open up train options and other transfers with Lufthansa. Pity it’s a Sunday though. Is Frankfurt a holiday destination, wondering why it’s just summer.

    Business travel (mine anyway) is usually weekdays, and less of it in summer. Mon -Wednesday or Tuesday to Friday.


    Any sign of a Rome or Brussels flight coming?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,401 ✭✭✭thomil


    I think it's Cork that's the summer destination here. Ireland is very popular with German tourists, and with Ryanair's commitment to Frankfurt Hahn becoming increasingly shaky, it looks like Lufthansa saw an opening in the market. They have the big advantage of offering transfers through their hub in Frankfurt, so I guess the economics work out for them.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



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