TFI Fare Revisions from 28th November 2022 Including New 90 Minute Fare.

It feels like, on almost all fronts, the NTA is failing in its mandate. Almost everything they do is delayed, and when they deliver the end result is always far from perfect.

What's the correct tag-on/tag-off procedure for changing from Luas to Commuter Train at Broombridge?

e.g., I tagged on at Luas O'Connell St, held my card up to the reader (once) at Broombridge and again when I got off the train at Coolmine. It seemed to take just €2.30 from my card but I wasn't convinced I was 'legal' if there'd been an inspection on the train leg of the journey.

did you tag-off the Luas at Broombridge?

I think you need to tag-off at the Luas platform and then back on on the train platform (i.e. different card-reader).

If you'd been inspected you would have been seen as tagged-off, but I'd imagine you could argue that you'd paid the fare anyway.

The readers are separate at Broombridge for both train and LUAS.

You need to tag off for one and tag on to the other.

2.30 Euro is now the most expensive so it didn't change. Most expensive right validator before and now. That didn't change.

Ok - if you have prepaid tickets loaded onto your LEAP card, then when boarding a bus you should use the righthand validator to either use a day from the rambler ticket or validate your monthly/annual ticket.

In that scenario if you want to only use the epurse to pay a fare, be it €1.60 or €2.30 then go to the driver’s machine.

If you do not have any prepaid tickets loaded onto your LEAP card, and want to pay a fare, then use the driver’s machine for the short €1.60 fare (or if you’re not sure), and use the righthand validator for the €2.30 transfer fare.

From memory, Irish Rail will take their max Leap fare minus 2.30 and you'll be charged that - the difference is refunded on tagging off.

This is off one set of trips with a temporary card when my partner forgot their taxsaver and I figured out it was cheaper to buy and then cancel a Leap than pay cash fares!

It is very simple:

For EVERY bus journey you tag on for each individual bus journey and there’s no tag off

For EVERY train & tram journey - tag on and tag off for each individual journey

Is this you being jealous and upset for being old?

I live in hope, it's a nuisance having to mow the front lawn. Also my gates won't close properly since the Mrs reversed into them about 20 years ago so it would be great to get a new wall, gates and a wedge of compensation ...although I don't think there's one planned for my road 😥

There’s a fare calculator in the fares section of the Irish Rail website.

The answer is yes using LEAP.

Yes, it's correct.

In truth, with the 20% fare reduction, the Travel 90 concept and the 'fare linking' of buses, Luas and Irish Rail, we've genuinely never had it so good for public transport pricing in the Dublin area.

Note - you could even have got a bus from somewhere to M3 Parkway at the start of your journey and it would still just be €2 for everything.

Thanks everyone, thats some deal, wont be paying 5 euro car park now 😎

I try avoid the bus if possible, living where i do in Blanch its bus or nothing and its been a soar point for YEARS (it might turn up, then a hour or so journey)

I will be going into town this way from now on, 5 minutes in a car, park for free, then two Dart or walk about 5 minutes and stuck on a stuffy bus for a hour (or more)

I think they missed a trick not introducing Day Travelcards for IE and BE journeys into Dublin like in London.

Taxsaver is basically redundant for many now if they don't - single mode, higher rate tax payers who don't WFH and just get the barest level or holidays may still find it saves a little.

Won't be renewing mine, €4 a day two/three days a week (I always had to drive occasionally, now with a different job it's partial WFH), ~45 weeks a year is 548 in a worst case scenario, when a rail/bus taxsaver is over 700 even after tax.

Any further tax cut for middle income workers as promised by the current Government will make taxsaver even less appealing.

First time I've had an "off topic" post deleted

It was follow up on what I was talking about here

Lesson learned as ever with boards

Its also very Sam Vimes Boots Theory - it allows those with more money to get public transit for (in the past, significantly) less than those with less money.

It also distorts the real subsidy to public transport by hiding some of it. Should just redirect all to normal funding.

Sounds like you are in the same area as me (38/38a Mulhuddart).

Re your looking for ideas on what to do (and the mods may move this to a more suitable forum as its not directly related to commuting/fares etc).

One I regularly do in summer is walk to Clonsilla station, then walk to Maynooth along royal canal, then train straight back to Castleknock and 38 home from outside (€2 fare obviously). It's a long walk (17K) though. But can reverse at Leixlip station instead if feeling tired.

Also getting to Howth is easily manageable within the 90 mins by bus and train changing at Connolly. Howth lovely in thsse months, cliff walk etc.

Realistically there is nowhere in the zones 1-4 that you can't get to within the 90 minutes (given that you only have to tag-on within the 90) so use your imagination I guess.

Had to finally top up the leap card today (thank you young adult fare 😂) and noticed they've added a handy timer showing how long your "TFI 90" fare is valid for:

On android. The app was only updated on the 19th, so most likely coming soon to the iOS app.

How come I'm charged 3 euro on the leap when all of these journeys are begun within 90 minutes of each other?