Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

"Show me the evidence."

Shows evidence.

"I never said show me the evidence."

Shows evidence that he did.

"You don't understand me."

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That's it. You got me. He was always talking about several orders of magnitude, 1000x the death rate of flu. And no one else was. Because that would have been utterly sane and normal and obvious. I stand corrected. Makes perfect sense to argue about that, I mean it's really something everyone just assumed. Dearie me.

Thanks. You're starting to get it.

Explain this "mRNA effect", mRNA and NLC are excreted from the body within days of injection, there is no cumulative effect there (there was some early studies in mice that aren't really representative of how NLC are used today, thanks to the results of that study funnily enough, because that's how scientific knowledge is advanced).

Astro, again careful with the name calling.

You don't get it either, do you?

Let me break this down for you too. Hopefully for the last time. I made a series of statements that at the beginning of the pandemic were considered facts only to be later debunked and proven to be untrue. I have been accused of lying when I made those statements. I have proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the statement that:

a) covid is several orders of magnitude more deadly than flu (a statement originally promoted by the likes of McConkey and Co.) is untrue

b) lockdowns were to stop, eliminate or at the very least control the virus - is also not true, lockdowns failed and I provided 3 different publications that support this, and could easily find a lot more if I wanted.

I call it a fair argumentation especially against something as weak as raind's one liners and an accusation of 'incessant lying'. And your claim that he did "pretty good job of refuting all" my points, is laughable. Period.

Can you show me where McConkey said this please? This "several orders of magnitude" claim. As you have stated, "several orders of magnitude" are thousands of times more deadly than flu. So McConkey has stated publicly that COVID was at least a 1000X as dangerous as COVID. I've had a search but cant find this info.

This is completely statistically incorrect. Its very well established that negative vaccine side effects have been way more common from the second (and third) dose than the first. With every vaccination dose the rate of adverse reaction has been shown to increase. If there was "no cumulative effect" this wouldn't be the case.

"Systemic side-effects were reported by 13·5% (38 155 of 282 103) of individuals after the first dose of Pfizer-BioNTech, by 22·0% (6216 of 28 207) after the second dose"

Even the HSE themselves advise that side effects are more likely after the second dose:

"You are more likely to experience common side effects after the second dose."

There are lots, and lots of studies out there on this.

Where am I saying that it is actually Sam himself who said it? All I'm saying "the likes of.." and that does not mean that it is Sam himself who used these words. I'm merely making an association that such claims were made across the world by the proponents of lockdowns and zero covid policies who were coming up with various claims to support their opinions. Sam McConkey is just one of those figures.

Here, the definition of 'the likes of': https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/likes-of-someone-something

I do however remember him on a national television claiming that up to 60-70% of population was to be infected with the virus and up to 200k would possibly die of it in due course. I wish I recorded it. So go figure, do your own maths.

You're interpreting that definition incorrectly. For instance if someone said they were comoeting with the likes of IBM and Unisys, it would be bizarre if they meant "companies like IBM but not actually IBM".

The likes of X usually means X and other things like X.

According to whom the interpretation of ‘the likes of’ is incorrect? You?

Well, according to Cambridge Dictionary: someone or something that is equal to or as important as the person or thing being mentioned.

I quoted that definition when I explained my thought process. It is a fairly credible definition and refers to people or things that are similar to the one mentioned.

If someone has to continously cite a dictionary to try and wiggle out of ever providing evidence, then maybe he isn't as effective communicator as he believes he is.

More and more countries ending their restrictions so I wonder are we looking good for February 28th?

Mr McC and his counterpart in the U.K,Mr Ferguson,were remarkably similar in their predictions (Calculations ?).

Incredibly,they are both provenly equally incorrect.

 https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/simon-harris-this-could-go-well-beyond-the-health-service-1.4197351

Prof McConkey can be as big an expert as he likes,but all his expertise counts for SFA,when his most unscientifically put predictions have been proven to be not along incorrect,but hugely so !

Accquiring professional stature at his level,usually entails using scientific language to factually support his conclusions,something our good Prof CHOSE to ignore in his crazed rush to meet the requirement to FRIGHTEN our population into comlpliance with whatever half cocked "Emergency Restrictions" then became necessary.

In the U.K.,the equally well qualified Prof Neil Ferguson adopted McConkeyism as his mantra also,and as a "Mathematical Epidemiologist" simply used his gift for sums to put his particular spin on how to FRIGHTEN entire countries into compliance.

https://www.newstatesman.com/uncategorized/2020/07/neil-ferguson-covid-modeller

Even Canada,who are showing great strength of character in their absolute buy-in to Fear Promotion,have cottoned on to how much coloured smoke was actually blown all over them by these Scientific equivalents of the "Crazy Cat Lady"

At least some Canadians were able to ask questions and point out the very evident flaws in how these "Scientists" both devised and presented their views,which turned out to be mere Opinions,just like the rest of us had.

Anybody out there sellin a few pups.? 😁