Public Service - Salary Scale

the-island-man wrote: »

Hi,

I am wondering if someone could clarify what way the salary scale works in the public service?

I have recently seen an advertisement for a job in the public service and a salary scale is given. It has salary points labelled from 1-13 followed by 3 more salary points labelled with MAX, LSI 1 & LSI 2. I have absolutely no idea how this works. Is the successful candidate able to negotiate the salary or is it based specifically on years of service within the public sector?

Thank you in advance,
the-island-man

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

LS1 and LS2 are 3 and 6 years no?

Certain Civil Service COs and EOs are skipping points 4 and 8 on the scale - not sure about public service.

You go to the bottom of the scale unless your salary in previous role is higher than that

It's all dealt with in the circular which details pay upon promotion

That might be the case in the Civil Service but in the part of the Public Service I work in I regularly take in staff well up the relevant scale who has no prior public sector experience. I have to justify it every time but that's easy enough to do as they (a) usually earned more in the private sector and wont join if it means a large pay cut or (b) have a skill set I won't get for point 1 on the scale.

We don't issue Recruitment Booklets per se, rather job descriptions with Functional and Core Competencies listed along with a salary scale and a note that you will be placed on a point on the scale in line with Dept. Finance Guidelines / based on experience and qualifications. I'd never be able to recruit entry level admin support if they had to start on point 1 of the relevant scale (~€27,500).

I'm in the wider public service rather than the civil service. We would appear to have a lot more flexibility than the civil service. Our grades aren't really analogous to any civil service grades.

Not commercial semi state, third level education. Most of our entry level admin roles require a couple of years experience and some a degree but not all.

Going off topic here but I am always in awe of how popular the Clerical Officer threads are on here when I can struggle to get more than 5-6 applicants for a similar role with similar entry criteria but with with better pay and prospects. We don't advertise on Public Jobs as a rule so maybe we aren't on everyone's radar (that goes for almost the entire sector).

Can puy be negotiated. I am on the top end of a scale in public sector with department of education. €42k

I have applied for a new job with starting salary 33k I’m public sector however this role requires a level 8 degree to do and my other role didn’t. It’s a higher more responsibility role. Will I automatically go in on the scale at 42k or will I have to fight for it?

It says starting point scale one I think? I’ll go check.

You should be able to get put on to the same salary you are on now then.

Good updates.