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Are food prices rising?

  • 15-09-2021 12:13pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Patsy167


    It's mentioned almost daily in the news - Have you noticed material increase in prices for groceries or for eating out/takeaways?



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    Yep, I think I've definitely noticed increases. I don't watch the price labels on groceries too closely, but it feels like my amount spent gets higher every month. In terms of take out, my local sandwich shop just put all their prices up by 10%, and a number of restaurants close to us have recently increased prices by 5-10%.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,149 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I haven't noticed groceries or ingredients costing more (perhaps this is just inattention) but takeaway food and low to mid priced dining prices have increased massively as far as I can see.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,537 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Eating out prices have definitely risen but much of that won't be ingredient cost related, but staff wages and covering for reduced turnover due to reduced space.

    I've not noticed a groceries price rise yet but I've also not done a "big shop" for a month because we've been away, its possible I'll get a shock at the weekend!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,149 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    €10 sandwiches hardly raise an eyebrow, now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,537 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Big shop done. Nothing obviously up in price except one thing which has very seasonal pricing anyway - peppers.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    yeah thats been my observation as well. Its not uncommon to see pizzas in restaurants/pubs for 16-18 euro now which is quite a rise. Other items like burgers asking a similar price. And as you say 10 euro seems like almost a default for sandwiches. Was in a Lebanese restaurant in a provincial town a few weeks back and almost every main course was 20 euro or over. It wasnt even that nice either, had to send the shish lamb skewers back as they were so dry and over cooked. First time Ive had to send food back in years but I wasnt paying an already over priced 20 euro for a couple of dry lamb skewers with bread and salad.



  • Administrators Posts: 54,089 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    I haven't noticed individual items go up in price, but I did notice that our grocery bills exploded once the first lockdown started.

    Trying to find interesting lunches that you can cook quickly but don't cost a fortune is difficult!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,617 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    I think it’s more about availability than pricing but I’m sure rises are on the way.

    The price of fuel though. It’s up 25% in the last year but no one’s taking to the streets protesting. Disguised as carbon taxes, not a cent will be ring-fenced for the environment. 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    It is availability and the price these days. We buy certain things for years and every price increase is quite easy to spot. Also a lot of groceries started to suffer from shrinkflation where price is more less the same but for smaller size or less pieces.

    What is more worrying is that it is only the start of it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭jrosen


    I cant say I have noticed individual prices but overall my grocery shopping is up. Id say 20 per week on last year.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Stone Deaf 4evr


    My local butcher does 10 chicken breasts for 10 euro, thats now gone up to 12, its the first hike that caught my eye anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭caviardreams


    Definitely notice 10% on some products products - Skyr in Aldi was 1.99 now 2.19

    Maybe it's a dairy issue though as I believe milk has increased across the board



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    yeah been noticing 20 cent price rises on a few things in Aldi, they never do them all at once but over the course of a few months several items Id buy have risen. The value from the Super 6 meats is long gone too, there used to be bargains but now its just stuff that is only slightly cheaper than it would be at normal prices. Annoyingly one thing I often buy (stewing beef) only shows up on it once every few months whereas before it was every few weeks.

    Petrol/diesel is massively up but seems to have settled at 1.70-1.75 a litre for unleaded. I read somewhere it was 1.30ish in December 2020. The bad news is it is set to go back rising again soon, it might yet hit 2 euro a litre.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭silver2020


    Chicken in particular has risen in price due to the miniscule margins. So any increase along the supply chain will see a retail price increase.

    In the meat industry feed has jumped, covid costs in factories are a cost and cost of processing has jumped due to energy cost increases.

    All leads to 10%++ increases at retail.



  • Registered Users Posts: 685 ✭✭✭Housefree


    3 cans for €1.50 in Dealz are now 2 for €1.50





  • I used to like buying a tray of decent-sized chicken wings and spicing them up, did for two meals at low cost. For the past several months I can no longer buy quality wings, they are scrawny broken up things that are as tough as rubber when cooked, no way they will crisper up. So this is one item where quality has plummeted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    yeah noticed that as it was what led me into Dealz the odd time apart from the toiletries. I think it went down in size as well from 330ml cans to 250ml cans so it was a double whammy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭silver2020


    No size change. They used to bring the UK cans of coke, Fanta and sprite in but now source locally and they are the taller thinner cans - still 330ml.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    Myself and my OH have have very different diets...

    Hers is typical diet, with lots of processes foods, and cereals and grains...

    Mine, meat, Dairy & vegetables...

    I have noticed the price of her stuff has increased, mine has stayed the same for the most part...

    Pet food has skyrocketed I have found...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,996 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Indo has a graphic today. Not sure how true it is as Milk has risen ~15%, Pasta ~10%




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,021 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    They absolutely have and I've noticed this particularly in Aldi , I pretty much get the same items on a regular basis there and have seen increases ranging from €0.10 up to €0.30 cent on a range of items.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    I’m with you on this, Aldi are a noticeable culprit in the last few weeks, from frozen fries to fresh soups, all up by 10-30cent



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,413 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    2 litres of own brand milk went from €1.49 to €1.69 across the board. It's so funny the price is exactly the same across the big 5 despite different packaging, creameries, advertising and distribution networks. If I wasnt living in such a 'well corporately policed' country I would call that a pure cartel, lol.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,996 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Basic burger buns 69c 79c. Frozen chips 1kg 69c 79c. Both a 14.5% increase.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Lidl

    fillet steak was €5.79 now €5.99

    Aldi

    fresh soup

    was €1.49 now €1.55

    Skin on fries

    was €1.59 now €1.99

    butter

    was €2.19 now €2.49



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Obviously the rising cost of living is across the board, it's not just groceries.

    From my perspective, groceries are less of a problem than the challenge of higher fuel and heating costs. I don't know if everyone will agree with me on that, but my rationale is (1) Most workers, especially everyone outside the main cities, have to pay for fuel to get to work, and it's never been higher at the pumps. That cost, and the cost of heating homes, seems to have become more acutely expensive more quickly than groceries are rising (2) Those high costs are going to affect hauliers and our delivery infrastructure which is part of problems with supply chain costs rising. (3) Rising grocery costs are relative ... Not sure if this will go down well, but if you consider the cost of groceries in the late 90s and 00s, anecdotally I feel like they were more expensive then than now, perhaps due to there being less choice in the marketplace. Then the discounts and German supermarket chains came in, and we also had a period of protracted low inflation. Consumers had more choice than ever before, there were price wars, and what I'm suggesting is basically that we had a period where food has been quite cheap. Yes, prices are on the rise, but I don't think it's going to challenge most* households in the same way that fuel and heating costs will. The MUP doesn't help though.

    In the long term I'm not sure how we won't look back at what the consumer enjoyed in retail of every kind over the last 20 years and not recognise that it was an era that couldn't last. Long-term I just don't see that climate change policies are going to continue to allow overseas manufacturing to flood the west with products of all kinds intended to be sold cheaply and replaced quickly. The cheap electronics, the cheap clothes, the out of season foods shipping halfway around the world ... If climate is the challenge people say it is, eventually policies will put a de facto end to this model. And that can only mean that there will be less choice, and what there will be will be more expensive. Hopefully it is 'worth it' in other ways.

    *Accepting that there are some households who just don't have the disposable income to swallow any price increases anywhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,253 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    I've noticed increases on the regular things I'd buy. 3l of milk in Lidl went from €2 to €2.29.

    Was running on fumes in the car so had to put some fuel in, blown away to see it was 182.9 in Carrigaline, Cork. Putting in €20 worth of fuel gave me a little over 10l of fuel. Absolutely insane.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,986 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I notice a lot of small increases seem to be the common when it comes to groceries. Just small enough that you wouldn't notice.

    But some of them are big enough that they catch your eye. I noticed that Supervalu 1lt milk went from 75c to 85c in one go, but that was away back in late 2021, before all this inflation talk hit the headlines. That was an 11% rise overnight, much more than inflation.

    And just this week I notice their in-store made Lemon Meringue went from €4.50 to €5, funnily enough another 11% rise.

    Maybe their costs are rising, and so is product being supplied to them, but I'd say knowing Ireland some retailers are using this crisis to allow them to make a pile of price increases.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,123 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Food price increases are only starting, the cost of inputs in agriculture are up significantly, Fertilizer treble in price, all oil based products up.


    Inputs are up about 15% last year and rising still.


    Increases will be feeding through for 18 month's



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,996 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    In fairness, milk price has not risen to the consumer for years, possibly a decade. Same for bread, margarine, and other staples

    Agree with Danzy on medium term price rises.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,149 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    This is pretty much my view, as well.

    When I see some of the price rises being highlighted, I'm shocked at how cheap both the old and new prices are. I, also, accept that price increases on cheaper food items affect lower income households disproportionally.

    But food has been really cheap for a long time, now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,698 ✭✭✭Feisar


    I've noticed the creep upwards. I dont scrutinize my receipt but I'll glance over it. We shop in Aldi for the bulk of our food and it is going up. But realistically it amounts to a take out coffee or two a week. Much more important is food management at home.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    How or what happened that fertiliser tripled in price?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,123 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Gas prices surge. China limiting exports til Jun and a few other things but they are the big ones.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,444 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Need to keep receipts as buying the same things you can see the price changes and i noticed SuperValu delivery has gone from 5 to 7 euros now and lost the free delivery if receipt was of a set price.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭Pistachios & cream


    Groceries really have been cheap for a long time. I remember shopping with my mother in the early 90s and her shopping was always around £100. This was for a big family but it was a pretty rigid list with little variety and leftovers were incorporated into meals the next day. We only got exotic fruit and grapes when they were on huge sale. Cereal was always corn flakes and wheatabix. Now we ate very well with loads of baked goods as treats and biscuits etc but it was all managed I can see now quite tightly by my mother.

    nowadsys in my own shopping I have so much more variety and what would have been considered luxury foods. However there’s no way I spend as much as my mother did even allowing for family size.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,996 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Lidl pasta was 45c last summer, now 65c https://www.lidl.ie/p/inflation-busters/spaghetti/p18839



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Lidl frozen chicken wings have gone from 2.79 about 4/5 months ago to 3.29 today, there has been two price increases as I remember buying them at 2.99 about 6 weeks back



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭lenscap


    Yes prices are creeping up but I think cooking from scratch and good food management will help.

    So ditch the sauce jars and packets and don't buy pre-prepared meat/meals.

    I checked a supermarket's whole raw chicken, €2.60 per Kg. They had prepared raw chicken fillets, €8.30 per Kg. That is more than 3 times the price per Kg.

    Cooking from scratch doesn't have to be so time-consuming and cooking can be fun/enjoyable rather than a chore.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Completely agree on cooking from scratch, it can be long and leisurely or brief and time efficient… But it is less expensive for certain.

    The challenge is many people have little or no cooking skills. I don’t mean that in a judgemental way, I was like that until I met my wife and discovered how important cooking was to her. I didn’t know even the most basic of techniques.

    I’m reminded of a Jamie Oliver show where he tried to teach cooking to a few working class families who were only eating takeaways and processed foods. Initially he thought previous generations in their families knew how to cook and that the current generation were an anomaly. But historians he had on were able to show that (in the UK at least), urban dwellers always depended more on convenience type options as much or more than home cooking, ever since the industrial revolution.

    As time passes I feel like the class divide is getting more and more acute when it comes to the related areas of cooking ability and health (particularly obesity). It’s not just a money and time gap, it’s a knowledge and lifestyle gap also.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭lenscap


    Speaking of Jamie Oliver, he had a tv program a few years ago about school dinners and part of it was a classroom of English children about 8 or 9 years old and a classroom of Italian children the same age.

    He showed a selection of vegetables to the English children and about half or less could name all. Whereas all of the Italian children could name all the veg.

    In Italy, there is pride in cooking knowledge and skill, both male and female and it is not seen as a chore. It is simply a case of attitude.

    I often thought that simple cooking skills should be taught in primary school. It is a life skill after all and we do eat 3 times a day so it would come in handy😁.

    I remember one time on Operation Transformation (I think it was) and one participant was shocked "What??? We have to cook EVERY DAY!!!"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    yeah the mark up on stuff that is processed can be colossal. The best Ive spotted yet is Aldi who sell tiny packets (50 grams I think) of cooked streaky bacon. It is listed on the price label at 25.99 a kilo which is insane given you can buy a packet of it uncooked for 1.09



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,123 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Food prices have been slipping for years, especially for producers, people wanted it cheap.


    That model is now falling apart.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,911 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Jack Monroe (@bootstrapcook on Twitter) is a brilliant follow if you're interested in how inflation affects food prices at a far higher rate than the published percentage. She's in the UK but much of it is relevant here too. She's also very vocal about how rising food prices disproportionately affect those on lower incomes, having been on the absolute breadline (no pun intended) herself for many years.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 539 Mod ✭✭✭✭TheKBizzle


    +1 for @bootstrapcook she recently took uk supermarkets to task on the disappearance of lower priced items and had a lot of them successfully reappear on shelves. She has a blog too with loads of money saving recipes.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    TBH the classic Delia, Marcella Hazan, Diana Henry etc recipes are probably as cheap as what Jack Monroe plans, if you adjust the protein source used (if there is one). Not a dig at her, just an observation that a lot of good fundamental cooking is not inherently expensive, it’s mostly about technique and patience. Inevitably if you are on a budget you might have to cut corners on ingredient quality but a roast chicken will still be pretty good whether it’s a basic Lidl one or a free range one that was massaged and fed grapes by a man playing a soothing flute to it. Shame to lose out on supporting higher welfare but needs must at times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,996 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Tesco frozen chicken burgers have gone from €2.49 -> €2.59 -> €2.70 in two months

    Seeded burger buns were 69c now 85c



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,149 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I bought two ribeye steaks in Tesco the other day for €9.50. They were seriously good steaks. Stand out good.

    If I think back to 20+ years ago - you just couldn't get decent steaks in the supermarket. If you wanted decent steak you had to source from a good butcher and I remember, distinctly, paying £5 (not €) per similar sized striploin steak.

    So, what I can now buy for for €4.75 would have cost €6.35 over 20 years ago.

    Food has gotten extremely cheap over the last 20 years - no question.

    I accept that this is little consolation to anyone genuinely struggling to put food on the table.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Gant21


    Gone are the days of yellow pack Tesco food. The modern generation are clueless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,012 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Takeway from that. Cook more from scratch. Its never been cheaper.

    Spuds down, veg down, kilo of rice for 99c, kilo of carrots for 99c, 2 kilos of flour for €1.85, 2kg of spuds for €2,



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