Russia - threadbanned users in OP

I would love to know what was said. India in general is pro-Russia for historical reasons (thanks to vile racist Nixon trying to intimidate India and Russia coming to India's aid).

The video of Schönbach shows him saying that Putin should be treated as an equal by the west, and referring to Russia as an “old . . . and important country” that the west needed “against China”.

“What he [Putin] really wants is respect,” he said. “And by God, giving someone respect is low-cost, even no-cost . . . it is easy to give him the respect he really demands — and probably also deserves.”

Schönbach also said that the “Crimean peninsula is gone, it will never come back, this is a fact”. That is in contradiction to the official western line that the annexation of Crimea was illegal and must be reversed.

The German defence ministry said Schönbach’s comments “do not in any way correspond to the ministry’s position, either in terms of content or in choice of words”, adding that Schönbach would “have an opportunity to make a statement to the Inspector General” of the Bundeswehr.

How many times bigger is the USA economy vs Russia’s these days? This carry in is ridiculous. I’m not for burying the Russians as that would make them even more bitter and resentful than they already are but this kind of carry on from a relatively weak low tech country simply shouldn’t be tolerated.

Russia may be an economic pygmy, but it has armed forces (and especially nuclear ones) way out of line with its economic strength. It also has a frightening capability to use them and not nonsense about domestic peace-loving opposition.

Russia and the US (happy to see the experts agree here that this isn't a NATO situation, it is a plain as day the US vs Russia) war game, the Ukraine is as it always has been a pawn in this game..

Russia used Ukraine to keep NATO from setting up shop on its door step

The US, now that it has flipped the Ukraine is looking to set up its attack shop on the door step of its enemy..

And want the public to accept that the Ukraine is an "independent" without influence nation? They've never had it, don't try and tell me now they're an independent nation.

What are we going to do about it?

The politicians and the Irish people stand behind the cloak of "neutrality" to not spend money on any defensive measures whatsoever. Couldn't be bothered. The Russians know that we are the weakest of the weak links that can do feck all.

This is the swing of that.

He's a fringe nutter, but still nice to get a shout out:

“Not all Europe should be destroyed - but London (yes).

“Let the Scots, Irish, Welsh live.

It's you that's not true mate.

I don't know what tinfoiler you got that from, but it's utterly false. It's not in the Lisbon Treaty, we aren't obligated in any such way and our current defence spending is 0.17% of GDP

NATO members do have a 2% GDP defence spending agreement, but its rarely met and of course we aren't in NATO so....

The withdrawal from Afghanistan might be the most efficient withdrawal of an occupying force I've ever heard of. What did they lose, like 14 soldiers? I'd call that a success.

The escape from Afghanistan by the US being described as the most effient ever, those words, those words should be painted in history as the greatest propaganda words I've ever seen.

The US friends in Afghanistan see that withdrawal as a **** show.. in my words.. a **** show of epic proportions.. the Taliban walked through the lines the US said would hold, the Taliban,held power about how many people escaped from the **** show..

But yeah, the most effective withdrawal (defeat) yeah all good.

I, we didn't see the live pictures of the withdrawal.. (Don't look Up)

If the Russians could be persuaded to move their missile testing exercise to Rockall and completely destroy the rock so it's not visible at low water it would favour Ireland greatly.