Cities around the world that are reducing car access

I do not believe that in 30 years' time everyone will use a car because not everyone uses a car now and not everyone who has access to a car including myself always relies on a car to get where they need to go. For me sometimes it is simply more convenient to cycle in on a rent-a-bike, not even my own bike along the 4km uninteruppted bike lane and leave it at a drop off point than to take my own bike, my own moped, my own car, hired e-scooter, bus or local rail.

I have no time for this hectoring. Go away Gjim. I don't want to engage with you. You demand that I answer contrived silly questions and present them as being killer blows which would undermine the basis of my position.

What I have teased out is that the most vocal on this thread haven't got a clue as to what traffic management strategies are in use on the Continent and their research is no more than Twitter links from biased commentators.

practically every intersection in the city where I live is part of a coordinated Green Wave allowing traffic to flow avoiding stationary traffic. One particular approach to the City has sequenced lights for 5 km and works like poetry in motion, others are grade separated, others are hewn through stone. All required investment but it was done rather than pursuing the lunacy of banning cars from the City.

It won't happen in Ireland because all the tinpots here are screaming to ban cars from the City.

Don't talk down to me. My viewpoint is more grounded and realistic than yours.

Cars that stay on a driveway and never turn a wheel are OK according to the consensus around here. A little nudge here, a little tap there, a slap across the calves with a ruler and soon it will be so inconvenient to use cars that "They" will see things "Our" way and abandon their cars. A Group here are trying to impose their views by stealth on the Public.

The hysterics are from other posters here and are the problem. Evidence of the anti-car culture is is the cheering here of the undemocratic attempt at closure of Strand road, retention of toll and restriction of access to East Link which is totally counter-productive. "Adjustments" to College Green and the Quays which makes them a no-go area, destruction of downtown Dun Laoighhaire at the expense of the sustainabilithy of the local economy, etc... It is all insidious and shows a bald contempt for cars and those who use them in this forum.

You, collectively, are a bunch of Zealots who despise cars.

I'm not sure leaning into the hysteria is the smart move.

Moving on, still waiting for you to share the city name that you like to hold up as a shining example. Or a similar one in the same country if you want.

Sounds wonderful. Seriously how many people buy 2nd hand dishwashers.

and have a car big enough to fit one

Are you seriously trying to claim that the suggestions from the usual suspects here on thread are trying to mimic what has been done and will be done in Karlsruhe?

Have you ever been to Karlsruhe. Do you know that there is a tunnel underneath it for cars and more tunnels are coming. Baden-Baden has similar tunnels and you can travel most of the length of the city only needing to emerge at street level close to your destination. Those Cities are anything but anti-car in that they invest to accommodate them alongside other legitimate methods of transport.

Here is a multibillion project in Karlsruhe that you do not seem to be aware of and will blow your mind: https://bnn.de/karlsruhe/karlsruhe-stadt/kombiloesung-karlsruhe-alle-infos-u-bahn-strassenbahn-autotunnel-kosten-fertigstellung

That is proper investment which is done because stealing road space from existing commuters doesn't work even though some overbearing posters here have tried to coerce me in to agreeing that space must be taken away from cars to achieve "their" dreams.

There are pages and pages of "ban cars", "restrict cars", "block cars" vendettas on this thread. Getting around Karlsruhe on my visits to the City in a car has been a pleasure.

It is only one page since a Poster said of cars "they should be demonised, they've ruined cities". Why wasn't that unarguably extreme view "moderated".

Also, of all the Cities I mentioned Karlsruhe was the one planned from the time of horse and carriage with very wide thoroughfares.

I'm the one who had to educate these posters as to the presence of Umweltzones but those tinpots are still going on about polluting cars.

The ignorance of posters on this thread is on another level and only matched by their arrogance, certain that they "know better" and happy to inflict misery on a commuting public with their half-baked ideas. They know nothing of properly operated communal car services or shared road spaces for strassenbahn and cars or how signalling/prioritization of traffic works in practice or even how the traffic lights at intersections work to maximise throughput. They don't know that most bicycle lanes are shared with pedestrians or that cars can turn left so long as no pedestrians are crossing.

Happy to take a look at that tunnel project, however, you're still continuing to deal in slinging mud and fud so to be honest, as you've shown no interest in an adult discussion I'll not be engaging with you further.

Take care

I have kept to the topic which is traffic management strategies in more enlightened countries w.r.t. the requirements of the travelling public.

It isn't my fault that many here mis-diagnose the problem and propose innappropriate or counter-productive solutions based on their prejudices against private vehicles.

For the last decade a very large brownfield quarter of the city I live in has been regenerated and private vehicular access rather than being restricted remains a component of the approach to transport and connectivity. That regeneration will continue for most of the next decade. Private Transport is certainly calmed through various strategies but isn't prohibited. People here forming their opinions from reading Twitter and Blogs seem to think that City Planners in Europe have turned their backs on cars. They haven't. It seems something has been lost in translation.

My last sentence in the last post was "It seems something has been lost in translation."

Do you understand the implications of that ruling for future bikepaths; They won't be built as the obligations on the Local Authority to allocate space are too exacting. The paths must be broad enough to allow cyclists cycle side by side in both directions.

For the street in question, Kleestraße, out of a combination of necessity and bloodymindedness the Local Authority removed the parking spaces. This isn't a win for cyclists as this was already a fahrradstrasse and only residents' vehicles, disabled drivers and delivery vehicles had access to the street. Residents of the street will now have to pay for parking elsewhere which is, if it is anything like my city, probably be around 80 to 100 euro per month.

That is what is known as a pyrrhic victory.

Is that the Strasse you really want to saunter down?