Do men need a license to be allowed socialise (MOD NOTE IN OP)

That's the most original slagging I've heard in a while. Implying a guy is a virgin. That's brilliant, I've been on the internet for 20 years and it's the first time I've seen it.

If you miss that sarcasm I think we can conclude the issue was on your side.

Anyway, don't worry about me getting shredded, you've enough to be paying attention to when you're out running. https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/115620635/#Comment_115620635

This is a point I've been thinking about the last few days. Even accepting it all at face value (because to question if feelings are genuine is a hate crime now) it shows a dichotomy and double standard in how people express feelings. For women it seems like it must be public and that's completely fine and no-one can question it. Whereas men tend to keep it a bit lower-key, and maybe deal with it through jokes in private because what else is there to say?

As an example, my best friend's 2 parents died of cancer within a year of each other, he couldn't get home because of his dad's funeral. My mother was diagnosed with cancer before my aunt and uncle died. We constantly roast each other on the subjects. One time I apologised for going too far and funny enough this evening he apologised. In both cases the response was "You're grand, don't worry about it" followed by another jibe. That's how we in particular deal with ****. Because there's nothing else to say.

"It's ****."

"Yeah it's really ****."

"Yeah properly ****".

etc. ad nauseum

That's a boring, unhelpful (to a lot of people) conversation. We (and it's not all men, but it's most of my circle) process **** things by working them into our lexicon and reference pool. They're a part of life once they've happened so that's how we integrate them. I wouldn't repeat some of the **** we've said to each other to anyone because a) We've said some truly horrific **** and b) It's no-one else's business. But if we make a crass joke about something in private then we're part of the problem. One of the only fights I've ever put myself into was on a night out with him when we saw a guy hit a girl, he went to her so I went to the fella. But yeah, we need to step up by eh, not making jokes in private. GTFO.

But you are defending it, and excusing it, and have been, right throughout this thead.

You are either not truly understanding how the vast majority of women feel about it, or you do and you're dismissing it - and that's a big part of the problem.

Attitudes need to change.

I wouldn't go so far as saying a whistle should be criminalised, but it should become so frowned upon, that it becomes normalised that it just doesn't happen anymore.

Sadly, I feel men who defend this kind of behaviour are only going to get the message when other men tell them this behaviour is out of order.

They're obviously not listening to the women who are telling them it is.

Nah you're grand cheers.

Any wonder people have lost faith in religion when modern saints spend their time shitposting and getting banned from online message boards for being racist. Sad.

If you say so.

I'm not going to waste time trying to argue with you, when you are not open to listening to any point of view other then your own.

Unfortunately, there will always be some lost causes.