Cities around the world that are reducing car access

That’s great to see. Reinforces the fact that, from end Jan, every road junction in the UK is effectively a zebra crossing.

In Germany cars can turn right(remembering it is a LHD country) while the pedestrain light is green so long as there are no pedestrians at the section otherwise they must give way.

These lights aren't always green for pedestrians as otherwise vehicluar traffic would backup and block traffic passing through and going straight ahead.

These traffic light installations also have dedicated lights for cyclists that operate similarly as for the pedestrians but are intended for cylicts.

In short, there are better ways to achieve priority for pedestrians than what is proposed here but then again what would I know since I only obey the rules of the road here as a pedestrian, cyclist and motorist.

I would put it to you that you aren't well enough travelled and aren't living in a progressive City which is pedestrian and bike friendly, a city which has adopted more pragmatic approaches than the bruteforce anti-car changes which you propose for implementation. This City is a compact University city with most Students and Workers getting around on public transport, by foot or on bikes but still car friendly.

I know the German green traffic light system for pedestrians has been in operation for a very long time yet everyone here seems to be falling over themselves to inconvenience cars with poorly thought out "solutions" from Twitter.

This is a traffic sign that I need to obey everyday which gives priority to pedestrians and cyclists. It works well.

I can only imagine how much longer the queues and wait times for vehicular traffic and pedestrians or cyclists would be without this rule.

you are the one who must come to terms with your prejudices against cars. Mode of usage is what is important. This city also has a ring of car parks which allow you to plan where you park before setting out and occupancy can be assessed before even jumping in to the car.

At peak times I never set out without having a confirmed plan as to where I am going to park.

An elected representative only tells you what you want to hear. There goes my flock, I must follow.

This thread revolves around the prejudices of those who contribute trying to demonize cars. the collection of posts is the thread.

They most certainly have not. Thanks for stepping up and putting yourself forward as an example of the type of posters to which I am referring.

It is not the fault of motorists that the Urban planners have implemented the wrong traffic calming and management solutions from an existing toolbox of solutions to the detriment of motorists, pedestrians, cyclists and other road users. Blaming the Motorist is scapegoating and nothing more.

A motor vehicle is neither benign nor malignant of itself so you are demonizing the people at the steering wheels of these devices. Thanks for the clarification.

Traffic free Capel Street to go through another round of public consultation before being implemented this summer.

Previous consultation showed 90% support among respondents for it

Indeed. This fact escapes many. In terms of capacity, the only, long term way to increase it is by making more sustainable modes a viable option to encourage modal shift away from the private car (bus lanes, protected bike lanes, priority crossing points etc). This has been shown to work everywhere its been done.

Actually, come to think of it, I'm not actually aware of a single instance where this hasn't worked to increase capacity or lead to modal shift. I just spent a while looking and looking but can't find a single study or report that says otherwise. If anyone comes across anything like that please post it, I'd be interested to see.

Interesting graphic which completely misses the point that none of these other forms of traffic get me to the locations I want to get to in to the old town or somewhere on the far side of the city in an acceptable time frame. The bike is the next fastest solution but it is 3 degrees and raining.

This is a city with excellent public transport options available. The situation in Dublin would be much grimmer.

I picked up two items yesterday in two different suburbs at different times and the alternative to using the car to collect them would have been 800m walk to train station or bus stop then the train or bus, then light rail then a few hundred metres walk on the far side. 15 minute trip by private transport becomes a 2 hour or more round trip or else pay for postage which is less convenient and costly.

The travel plans of normal people and the great Visions on this sub-forum are often incompatible with each other.

No. living in an ancicent City with geographical challenges which do not exist in Dublin I don't accept the need to restrict vehicular access to Dublin City to the extent posters here on this subforum suggest is necessary.

my car has no exhaust. stickers on windscreens determine which cars are allowed in to the inner city here. Without a green sticker your car needs to be parked in one of the car parks and make your way to your destination via another means of transport or your feet.

Questions are being asked on this thread which have been answered long ago in the city in which I live.

Dublin City Council could implement many of the practices implemented elsewhere which I have pointed out over many pages without restricting access for cars while at the same time incentivising use of personal mobility solutions.

Public Transport police would help to increase usage of public transport.

Intelligent traffic management which I see every day of the week isn't implemented in Ireland.

There are 3 points for dangerous overtaking of cyclists but that doesn't appear to be enforced. points for dangerous driving which once again does not appear to be applied/enforced.

Not being able to turn around a corner on a traffic light as I described above creates huge congestion as does the lack of a transition from red to green through amber on traffic lights.

You spoke previously about carrot and stick but really you yearn to dole out the beatings with a stick through prohibition of entry to the city with cars.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118430508/#Comment_118430508

leading questions deserve to be ignored.

I do not believe that in 30 years' time everyone will use a car because not everyone uses a car now and not everyone who has access to a car including myself always relies on a car to get where they need to go. For me sometimes it is simply more convenient to cycle in on a rent-a-bike, not even my own bike along the 4km uninteruppted bike lane and leave it at a drop off point than to take my own bike, my own moped, my own car, hired e-scooter, bus or local rail.

I have no time for this hectoring. Go away Gjim. I don't want to engage with you. You demand that I answer contrived silly questions and present them as being killer blows which would undermine the basis of my position.

What I have teased out is that the most vocal on this thread haven't got a clue as to what traffic management strategies are in use on the Continent and their research is no more than Twitter links from biased commentators.

practically every intersection in the city where I live is part of a coordinated Green Wave allowing traffic to flow avoiding stationary traffic. One particular approach to the City has sequenced lights for 5 km and works like poetry in motion, others are grade separated, others are hewn through stone. All required investment but it was done rather than pursuing the lunacy of banning cars from the City.

It won't happen in Ireland because all the tinpots here are screaming to ban cars from the City.

Don't talk down to me. My viewpoint is more grounded and realistic than yours.

Cars that stay on a driveway and never turn a wheel are OK according to the consensus around here. A little nudge here, a little tap there, a slap across the calves with a ruler and soon it will be so inconvenient to use cars that "They" will see things "Our" way and abandon their cars. A Group here are trying to impose their views by stealth on the Public.

The hysterics are from other posters here and are the problem. Evidence of the anti-car culture is is the cheering here of the undemocratic attempt at closure of Strand road, retention of toll and restriction of access to East Link which is totally counter-productive. "Adjustments" to College Green and the Quays which makes them a no-go area, destruction of downtown Dun Laoighhaire at the expense of the sustainabilithy of the local economy, etc... It is all insidious and shows a bald contempt for cars and those who use them in this forum.

You, collectively, are a bunch of Zealots who despise cars.