Do men need a license to be allowed socialise (MOD NOTE IN OP)

No one said it was a competition i was replying in the context of the tread as a whole and points made previous to yours.

Can you give an example of these scenarios in which you are put in every day that make you feel threatened ? Thats a pretty grim if true that you feel seriously threatened so often.

Do you always base your beliefs on scenarios?

I'm sure there was a case a few years ago where a woman was opportunistically killed by a roadworker?

I'll try to find it

I wouldn't get a kick out of anyone going around in a state of fear or being put in threatening situations on a regular basis as its wrong but fair enough i was just curious since you shared it in the tread.

And I'm empathetic to woman in these situations as most normal people would be but i think attacking men as a collective is counterproductive to the change they are seeking.

It's more than possible to utterly condemn anyone killing anyone else, opportunistically or otherwise, without similarly condemning crass communication. They are not the same thing. Those attempting to create some kind of spectrum in which they are, in fact, the same thing, are simply creating division where there shouldn't be any. And that's the problem

Nobody is going to deny that this murder (and indeed all other murders, opportunistic or otherwise) is appalling and that more needs to be done to prevent this kind of thing from happening and punish those who are caught engaging in it. That unified response utterly falls apart when idiots start saying sh!t like "if you make unsavoury jokes in your private whatsapp groups, or are a loudmouth in public, you exist on the same spectrum as murder". It doesn't help, and that's exactly what people in this thread are questioning. They are orders of magnitude, leagues, worlds, universes apart. One is at most a mild inconvenience to some people and an enjoyable occurrence to others, while one is a horrific, monstrous crime which deserves to have the full weight of the justice system applied to it and those engaged in it ruthlessly punished. Same applies to assault, sexual or otherwise.

You are simply never going to convince a large number of people that words - even rude or unwanted words - can ever carry the same kind of weight as physical violence. A huge, huge, huge number of people simply don't think that way and are perplexed by those who do.

To me this woman was killed by a lunatic.

Gender doesn't come in to it at all. Never crossed my mind that there was some deeper meaning here.

Attacking all men by the media is a nice distraction from the lawlessness our so-called judicial system allows in this country to go unpunished I suppose.

With so many walking our streets with 100+ convictions maybe both genders need to have eyeballs in the back of their heads.

Sure and as far as I know, no serious commentator has agreed with what he said. It's been rejected. That's the end of the story, isn't it? Maybe there are some eejits or trolls on twitter who agreed with him, but no serious people in real life think this is anything approaching a serious thought.

Did BoC not call him out on it, or did he just go along with it like a nodding donkey.

It's a distraction from the real issues I pointed out regarding repeat offenders and/or our so-called judicial system.

We have dangerous, really dangerous psychotics walking streets up and down this country.

That's the real scandal.

This gender stuff is a total distraction from the real problems.

This type of discussion brings up so many emotive issues - if anything, society as a whole needs be looked at.

Over the years TV content has become more violent and graphic. Film rating age limits have reduced. All sorts of content is available on-click. Violence passed as ‘entertainment’ enters the social consciousness.

It’s disturbing that society seems to be degenerating. Whilst I agree that most violent crimes are perpetrated by males there is a deeper issue at play which goes beyond gender.

We should aspire to live in a society which is safe for all and we can look out for each other.

If only every girl was like Lady Bloodbath, then a lot of guys would be taught a lot of lessons pretty fast.

There hasn't been one reasoned debate on rte since this tragedy occurred.

Very little focus on law and order. Duffy's main contribution "men need to check men". Ray Darcy ashamed to be a man (someone said on a different thread he was in tears). Tubs... well he was just being tubs.

BOC obviously following the party line. Mcconkey, whose background is in field of science then allowed make this suggestion unchallenged.

All the above on a state broadcaster. If there was an American left wing media platform coming out with nonsense like this we'd all be laughing and thinking how ludicrous their society had become.

And is there anyone asking questions about our legal system or policing?

As someone else pointed out above this campaign if it continues is going to be more divisive than productive to society.

Also to say don't mind Sam, nobody will take that suggestion seriously is missing the point. Idiots like him in the media will drive focus away from the effective solutions.