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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • #28442
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,885 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118447800#Comment_118447800

    It's still optional. It's your call.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, Sprints, Getdown Services, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '26 - Deftones, Sleaford Mods, Franz Ferdinand, Stereolab, Big Thief, The Cure, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic



  • #28443
    deholleboom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭deholleboom


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118447766#Comment_118447766

    Fauci and others have halted the rollout of existing Omicron targeted vaccines. Same old first vaccines/boosters w varied doses. They felt no need to update w Omicron already causing large scale immunity. However, i really do hope they will reconsider before an equally transmissible and more deadly variant arises which might already be the case. Anyway, they will be too late once that happens. Keep pushing existing boosters..



  • #28444
    Russman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,011 ✭✭✭Russman


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118447814#Comment_118447814

    The Brits don't have COVID passes ?



  • #28445
    aidoh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭aidoh


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118447991#Comment_118447991

    My bad, they do for entry to certain settings but also allow for negative antigen tests, which is more sensible than proof of vaccination alone imo.



  • #28446
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118447976#Comment_118447976

    What if unvaxxed want to have a bite to eat or a drink? Are you saying just punish them for the sake of it at this stage? I could understand limiting their movements with Alpha and Delta maybe. But Omicron is a non event and this will likely burn out very quickly now. Do we still ban them from hospitality?



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  • #28447
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,161 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118448009#Comment_118448009

    "Do this or lose access to society" isn't an option, its a threat.

    Only the most idiotic can't see the nuance there.



  • #28448
    Apothic_Red
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Apothic_Red


    hos.PNG


    That should trigger a few headlines today.

    I await the rearguard action in here



  • #28449
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,885 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118448009#Comment_118448009

    I'm unvaccinated. I can still get a bite to eat and have a drink. It's not punishment. I have a choice. I completely disagree with the passes...but it's my choice.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, Sprints, Getdown Services, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '26 - Deftones, Sleaford Mods, Franz Ferdinand, Stereolab, Big Thief, The Cure, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic



  • #28450
    skallywag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,075 ✭✭✭skallywag


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118448067#Comment_118448067

    Posting it up just to accelerate the rearguard action that you are wishing for?



  • #28451
    astrofool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,682 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118447980#Comment_118447980

    There's very little advantage to changing the vaccine if it's not needed, the effort to from from original to Omicron is the same as it would be for Omicron to whatever, there has undoubtedly been a Beta/Delta vaccine ready for trials (not sure if trials even needed as it would be similar to the updated flu vaccine) but the original keeps on holding up at preventing severe disease. I'd hold out more hope for nasal vaccines to become available instead.



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  • #28452
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118448067#Comment_118448067

    What are you talking about? These figures don't include discharges today and tomorrow after weekend.

    You would think that 2 years into this thing that making spurious points over Monday hospital numbers would be a thing of the past but seems not.



  • #28453
    TomTomTim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118447814#Comment_118447814

    This is supposedly from 2019, how did the EU even know about that there would be a need for a vaccine?

    https://ec.europa.eu/health/sites/default/files/vaccination/docs/2019-2022_roadmap_en.pdf

    This will likely be considered an "anti vax conspiracy theory" by the guardians of this site.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




  • #28454
    KieferFan69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭KieferFan69


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118448081#Comment_118448081

    Not a very illuminating choice of words though is it. A person at gun point has “a choice” to leave their home or stay and be at the mercy of house intruders also, but calling it “a choice” doesn’t really cut it.

    Its a fairly miserable existence for some people during the winter months in rural Ireland when they can no longer engage in civic life due to their choice not to get a particular pharmaceutical product. Not a nice feeling being turned away from places you used to frequent like a leper.

    And it most certainly is “a punishment”. By design. Just look at what Macron said during the week for a little insight on that.



  • #28455
    Fandymo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118445766#Comment_118445766

    One question I have seen about the vaccinations that I found to be extremely pertinent, and I’m not anti-vax I’ve had my 2 Astra Zenecas.

    But given that the manufacturers of all of the various vaccinations were unsure about the timeframe that they work for (i.e. how long you’re actually protected for), how could they possibly know what long term effects the vaccinations will have? Given that they were rushed through without long term trials.

    Or is that a silly question?



  • #28456
    darconio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 935 ✭✭✭darconio


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118448226#Comment_118448226

    CT forum that way -> 😂



  • #28457
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,885 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118448190#Comment_118448190

    Look, unless it is mandatory, I have a choice. I'm making the decision to bar myself from some premises. That's on me. Again, I feel I should point out that I'm totally against the passes.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, Sprints, Getdown Services, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '26 - Deftones, Sleaford Mods, Franz Ferdinand, Stereolab, Big Thief, The Cure, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic



  • #28458
    Fandymo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118448248#Comment_118448248

    It’s a genuine question. I’m not a CT. It’s not a rabbit hole I’m willing to enter.



  • #28459
    aidoh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭aidoh


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118448253#Comment_118448253

    You're not barring yourself though.

    You're being denied access by the state.



  • #28460
    KieferFan69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭KieferFan69


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118448265#Comment_118448265

    Think he’s taking the piss. The CT forum is a total joke anyway. Much easier to discuss the nuances of the situation we find ourselves in here.



  • #28461
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,141 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118448253#Comment_118448253

    Yes, but your being punished for your choices. I feel I was forced to get the vaccine to avoid being severely restricted.



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  • #28462
    HerrKapitan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭HerrKapitan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118448297#Comment_118448297

    They think they are providing a vital service for boards, filtering the loons into a pen, until the normal folk end up talking about the very same things after a year or two.



  • #28463
    darconio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 935 ✭✭✭darconio


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118448265#Comment_118448265

    Was just kidding: basically in here you cannot question the efficacy and safety of this treatment, any time you do, using logic reasoning in the same way you did, you are redirected to the CT forum.



  • #28464
    Apothic_Red
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Apothic_Red


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118448150#Comment_118448150

    Never let logic stand in the way of a clickbait headline.

    "Numbers Breach 1,000 as Omicron Tsunami Wipes Out the Health Service"

    The stuff just writes itself.



  • #28465
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118448352#Comment_118448352

    I dont know about you but I have full faith in Pharameutical companies to never take short cuts or adjust data in any way to help them make SNP (Super Normal Profits), thats not how humans work

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #28466
    darconio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 935 ✭✭✭darconio


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118448371#Comment_118448371

    Are you joking or you really believe that big pharma were, are and will be acting in good faith and their main interest is the wellbeing of the human race?



  • #28467
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118448455#Comment_118448455

    you cant do irony these days!!!

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #28468
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,885 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118448293#Comment_118448293

    If I was vaccinated, I wouldn't be denied access. That's my decision.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, Sprints, Getdown Services, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '26 - Deftones, Sleaford Mods, Franz Ferdinand, Stereolab, Big Thief, The Cure, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic



  • #28469
    DLink
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    What is it with people saying things are normal when restrictions are still in place?

    I mean, it beggars belief.

    Only when we return to 2019 standards of service are we "normal", nothing else is acceptable, and certainly not the "new normal" the Tony cheerleaders are trying to say is "normal".

    FFS, being treated like leper and having to present papers to sit inside a cafe with a cup of coffee isn't normal.

    Why do people keep making excuses for this?



  • #28470
    DLink
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink





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  • #28471
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,885 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118448301#Comment_118448301

    I don't feel like I'm being severely restricted. I take my business to places that don't check the passes.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, Sprints, Getdown Services, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '26 - Deftones, Sleaford Mods, Franz Ferdinand, Stereolab, Big Thief, The Cure, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic



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