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Minimum alcohol pricing is nigh

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,227 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    The limits will stop the students hiring people to take a busload back to them.



  • Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I agree because we have drinking problems in Ireland.

    Someone from Dublin driving up to Newry and back might make sense if they are going to load up a few months worth of drink. But cost of fuel and depreciation due to wear and tear and extra mileage would count against the savings.

    Most people will just pay the extra price and stay in Dublin or drink slightly less.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,309 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Only getting back to you now because I was busy all morning.

    The opposition should have opposed this MUP con trick because it is against the interests of people drinking modest amounts.

    They are paid to scrutinise legislation and represent their constituents.

    They should have examined the claims put forward by all interest groups including AAI and doctors etc. and insisted on legislation which could actually help problem drinkers without penalising ordinary people.

    The jig is up now, anyone can just go into a supermarket and look the proof is there on the shelves.

    All the lies about targeting problem drinkers and only affecting strong alcohol are exposed.

    As for your last point all I can say is try to empathise with the less well off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭HBC08


    I 100% agree with this,I've made every same point throughout this thread.

    I think there is near full agreement across boards,that's rarely seen.

    I'm a moderate drinker at home and my 5 bottles a week of IPA a week will now cost me a whopping €520 a year extra.Thats not even including the Mrs who doesn't drink much but would have a bottle of wine maybe twice a month so that's my small household of light to moderate drinkers getting absolutely ripped off.(Bare in mind that's from a base point of one of the most expensive countries in Europe for booze to begin with)

    What really worries me is this.....if they were dumb enough to bring this in based off some questionable info and lobbying from not particularly balanced or reasonable groups like AAI then what's next?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,227 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    What's next is that this will be a nine days wonder, and there won't be a word about it this time next year. If people want to save money, they could start by not throwing away so much food.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Possibly,the cycle of outrage and move on is the normal now,people forget and move on.

    However,it'll be hard to forget this as every fri night after a hard week at work it'll be staring me in the face when I pop into the offie or Lidl on my way home.I imagine I'm not alone in that.

    At the risk of repeating myself,it's often the small things that break the camels back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    Feel sry for them when there addicted to the bag which will work out cheaper than booze. Good man



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    Bootlegging from the north like the Canadian border in the 1920s US. I like it guys. I ride shotgun. Wheres me tommygun.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭lalababa


    It would seem to me to be pretty obvious, if I was young and wanted to 'get off my tits' and hadn't much money- I'd seriously consider getting a couple of pills or whatever drugs are going around nowadays than pay double for cheap cans or spirits.

    Pre mup....10 cans dutch gold...off my tits for 10euro

    Post mup...10 cans...my tits for 20euro

    Pre mup..2pills...off my tits for 10euro

    Post mup ..2pills...tits...10euro



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭kerryjack


    Don't drink much myself anymore but might have a few cans on a friday and Saturday evening, and you get to enjoy them better than if you are sipping cans all week, personally I think the big slabs were a bit too cheap like 24 cans for 15 or 20 quid, maybe a euro a can minimum would have been fine, but what they have done now with being 2 euro a can is ridiculous. Hit the poor and working man or woman again is shocking to say the least,nanny state, you be a good boy now go to work, pay your taxes, dont drink too much so you will be able to keep working and keep paying your taxes until you drop dead,like who the **** wants to live for ever.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,069 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    My preffered wines base price has gone from 12/13 to 15+, I used to buy a box of it only when it dropped to 10 or lower which regularly happened. If it doesn't go on sale for similar prices again I will definitely be going up north whenever its on sale there to buy several boxes, currently its base price there is equivalent to 12 euro.

    Throw in a few boxes of 12 Corona which are 17 here and only 13 in the north and the savings will add up quickly.

    It does help that I have a diesel because the savings arent anywhere near as good in a petrol car but still if you bulk up enough they are there to be had.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,227 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Say you were going to spend £300. That would cost you about €362.50 at the current exchange rate. I bought £300 for €330 when it was a good rate, maybe two years ago. The exchange rate is a big consideration.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,354 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    I agree because we have drinking problems in Ireland.
    Screenshot_2022-01-06-14-46-21.jpg

    Just got this text from Greyhound and thought of this thread. Is this a sign that we're drinking too much?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,227 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    There is no base price for wine, only the price the shop is prepared to sell it at, once that is not lower than the new legal minimum. A bottle of wine over €10 should not see any increase. Unless the shop decides to make it more expensive. Possibly as was suggested before in the thread, to keep a differential from the cheap stuff. But nothing to do with the legislation.

    Look out for increases in drink prices in the North as well. Not to do with our new policy, just a general rise possible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,309 ✭✭✭✭elperello




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,521 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    It's a sign we don't have enough bottle banks. In Nice there's one in every estate... it's as far as the winos can walk without needing another €2 bottle of wine maybe?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,203 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Its a sign that local authorities have pathetically underprovided for recycling facilities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,227 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    In Germany there is a 25 cent deposit on beer cans and bottles. I saw that on the link to the cheap beer in Germany on the thread.



  • Posts: 15,777 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    When are they bringing in the deposit on cans and bottles? Are Greyhound banking on heavy drinkers shame of going to a bottle bank with a fully loaded car transferring to getting their deposits back from shops and charging them 9.99 a month for the privilege and cashing in the empties themselves??? 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,732 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Its Citra Hops that are in a lot of the common craft beers - common because people (albeit not you) like them - rather than citrus additions for the most part. The flavours come from the Hops and Malts for the vast majority of micro beers rather than additions. I really think people who dismiss the entire industry really just haven't found one they like. There's serious quality in Irish brewing, reflected in the awards they get in the World Beer Awards.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,203 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    August. Allegedly.

    The legislation for it now exists finally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Of course it's a sign we're drinking too much.I remember in the 90s when there was no Greyhound bottle bins and nobody drank.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,521 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I thought that only applied to plastics and cans... glass bottles no change?

    Maybe they are rolling out as it will make recycling of green bin waste more expensive for them.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Posts: 15,777 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yeah I'd imagine if the cans were no longer in the green bin they would be losing out? I'm no expert on that industry so not informed as to what they make or lose on cans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,527 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    €1k worth is a huge amount of drink.

    I'm not sure you would get many people willing to spend €1k a go just on drink.

    I can think of a lot of non essentials I'd spend €1k on, like a holiday, towards a new entertainment system or other electronic goods, towards clothes, jewelry etc before I'd plunge it into drink.

    If you are talking pre MUP prices your €1k is going to get you 66 cases of 20 bottle Bud (€15 a case of 20)

    That's over 1,300 bottles.

    What supermarket are three of you going to be able to buy 200 cases of beer in ?

    You might have to travel to a few towns to fill that order.

    You'd need a decent van to transport them.

    And do you have space at home for 66 cases of Bud ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,227 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    It is a Statutory Instrument, not primary legislation. But a very detailed one compared to the one or two pages often being enough. Looks like it won't apply to glass. There will have to be a new qango set up to run it.

    https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2021/si/599/made/en/pdf



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,069 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    If they are doing it to keep the price difference between bargain and premium brands it is absolutely to do with the legislation as it wouldn't have happened without it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,227 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    I think you could negotiate a deal with the shop, when you are going to be spending that much. No harm in asking anyway.



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  • Posts: 15,777 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Never gets old!!!!!! Yer one with the cans outside was the icing 🤣



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