Will you be taking a booster?

The DayDream · 06-01-2022 05:02AM

I had my 2nd jab in June. Due to not being able to drive and being in a rural area I wasn't able to access the booster before the holidays, and planned to get it ASAP in the new year.

Unfortunately despite not socializing at all over the holidays I got covid symptoms Sunday night tested positive on antigen test monday morning.

The other person in my house was away for the weekend and returned on Sunday. We ate dinner sitting next to each other on the couch Sunday evening (just hours before I got symptoms - my throat got scratchy about 10 pm).

They had the booster 2 weeks ago and have no symptoms yet and tested negative this morning on antigen test. Also where I work most of the other people had the booster and none of them have come down with it, and I probably caught it from a customer at work unless I got it at the grocery store as I haven't been anywhere else.

You can make of that what you will, it's certainly no scientific study but IMO it seems getting the booster would have been possibly beneficial and I regret not pushing myself to make the appointment I had which was a whole county over and would have taken me all day 9 hrs in total between back and forth on the bus plus a taxi and waiting around but the ones around me who were close contacts with me that were boosted didnt get it and I did.

Astrazenica is feck all use vs Omicron it seems anyway after a few months according to articles and that's what i had. The dose i got this week felt exactly like the side effects of the 1st jab.

Lumen · 06-01-2022 08:30AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118424931#Comment_118424931

Your housemate isn't in the clear yet, they could still be in the incubation period as it's less than four days since they had contact with you.

They ought to be isolating or at least testing immediately before meeting anyone.

Two or three people I know have tested positive on day four or five after contact. All boosted, one also with a prior infection.

Antigen tests are really dodgy on days 3-5 when the viral load is on a step incline. They're a better tool for detecting the end of infectiousness than the start.

That's my anecdotes anyway. Hope you get better soon.

choronzonix · 06-01-2022 08:45AM

I've just 'recovered' (barely any symptoms but positive pcr) from covid. Got the first two shots over the summer. Probably wasn't going to get the booster unless I absolutely had to anyway (family wedding in April there'd be war if I missed over no covid cert) so luckily I'll now be able to avail of a recovery cert for the first half of the year at least. No booster for me!

eddie73 · 06-01-2022 10:43AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118415690#Comment_118415690

Disagree

Igotadose · 06-01-2022 11:32AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118425385#Comment_118425385

Why? He's not a medical Dr. He's got a PhD in education, it's embarrassing to pass yourself as a "Doctor" if you're not an MD.

machaseh · 06-01-2022 12:03PM

I dont have a booster but I am fully jabbed.

I wont take any booster.

So from which date onwards will my current covid cert be invalid? i got my 2nd jab somewhere in September.

eddie73 · 06-01-2022 01:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118425658#Comment_118425658

06-01-2022 01:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118426223#Comment_118426223

So when you said “Check out this man’s credentials” you knew he was a retired nurse? Is there something out of the ordinary in those credentials which are particularly relevant to Covid and the advice he is giving?

is_that_so · 06-01-2022 01:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118426223#Comment_118426223

Whether he is a medical doctor or not is conveniently left hanging and you have to dig it out as against the clarity that is John Campbell PhD. Some love him, some dislike his contributions for a variety of reasons so it's fairly pointless defending him as you are. If you post his videos there is every chance someone will make a negative comment about them. It's the way of the world!

eddie73 · 06-01-2022 01:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118426287#Comment_118426287

He seems reasonable, knowledgeable and spent his life in the caring industry. That is good enough for me.

mumo3 · 06-01-2022 01:54PM

I got my booster December 23rd, completely wiped me out over Christmas and my 16yr old got hers on Wednesday, and she's the same, currently at home in bed!! But still glad we have it.

we've been lucky so far in both my office and my household, as nobody seems to have caught covid yet!! But it seems to be rampant at the minute, and anyone I know who caught it and is boosted said it was just like a bad cold, those who weren't boosted had it a bit tougher.

Cluedo Monopoly · 06-01-2022 02:11PM

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If you are uncertain I would put it out of your head until February - Wait for the Omicron wave to peak and subside. I know so many people that got a booster just before Xmas but also got Omicron within days of it - obvious they had already contracted Omicron but had not shown symptoms when getting the booster. If you do get Omicron in the meantime you will pick up natural immunity which is shown to be quite robust when combined with initial 2 dose vaccines. You are only 4 months since your double vaccination so you should still have a relatively high level of protection. The Moderna booster being administered in Vax centres at the moment also impacts people quite strongly (2-3 days of side effects) so bear that in mind too.

Cluedo Monopoly · 06-01-2022 02:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118425845#Comment_118425845

Updated Covid travel certs to be issued this week (rte.ie)

In a tweet, Minister Stephen Donnelly said that the European Union is applying a maximum of nine months validity to certs "based on a completed primary vaccination course".

The new EU regulation on travel takes effect from 1 February.

The minister also said that people can request a Digital Covid Cert of recovery if they have recovered from Covid-19 in the last six months.

Igotadose · 06-01-2022 02:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118426223#Comment_118426223

If you're not an MD, passing yourself off as a Dr. is wrong. I really don't care what his real world experience is; he's not an MD and shouldn't pretend to be one by using the sobriquet "Dr." Better "Ed.D" or something like that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell_(YouTuber)

Plus he might've obliquely recommended Ivermectin at one point. Not good.

06-01-2022 02:39PM

Good to see South Africa is over the peak of Omnicron and it had only a very small effect on hospitalisations and deaths. As South Africa has only 30% vaccinated, getting a booster now in Ireland does not make sense unless you have underlying health conditions.

KieferFan69 · 06-01-2022 02:49PM

Not a chance I am getting any of these ‘boosters’. If you are 40 or less and in good health I don’t see the point and it may do more harm than good.

corkie · 06-01-2022 02:51PM

@Igotadose

Plus he might've obliquely recommended Ivermectin at one point. Not good.

New Pfizer drug and ivermectin

That video was fact checked on FB by journalist and he responded with fact checking who was doing it.

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Not getting into arguments over Doctor credentials for none GP's.

Contracted "Dr" or "Dr.", it is used as a designation for a person who has obtained a doctorate (notably PhD). In many parts of the world it is also used by medical practitioners, regardless of whether they hold a doctoral-level degree.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_(title)

Jjjjjjjjbarry · 06-01-2022 02:53PM

Got my booster. Was in a few minds about it but said as I already have two jabs then I may as well finish it out.

I don't think I will get any more though (if ever recommended).

Apogee · 06-01-2022 03:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118419891#Comment_118419891

Today's figures from HSE - unvaccinated remain at higher risk of ICU.

06-01-2022 04:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118427470#Comment_118427470

Today's figures from HSE - people with underlying health conditions remain at higher risk of ICU.

Are the current people in ICU with Delta or Omnicron? How many are in ICU because of Covid or for another reason though with Covid?

is_that_so · 06-01-2022 04:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118427652#Comment_118427652

Predominantly Delta in ICU and based on the fairly steady pattern of COVID ICU cases they need to be there for COVID.

timmyntc · 06-01-2022 04:28PM

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be interested to know how many of those patients are in ICU long-term.

Many vulnerable people contracted covid and were admitted to ICU before vaccines were available, I wonder if any are still in there.

06-01-2022 04:42PM

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I think it is fair to say that most people who observe someone giving medical information or advice whilst referring to themselves as “Dr”, would assume they are a Dr of medicine. And I suspect when Eddie said “look at his credentials”, he assumed the same, I’m not sure being a retired nurse carries the same credential gravity as medical Dr when discussing Covid. Of course I could be wrong, Eddie may well find Dr John’s credentials impressive.

This reminds me of one of my favourite scenes in The West Wing where a Dr is less than honest about qualifications to give medical/psychological advice.

https://youtu.be/Q1qkU2v_BhY

Apogee · 06-01-2022 04:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118427762#Comment_118427762

HPSC data will give insight into length of ICU stays

https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/covid-19intensivecareadmissions/

corkie · 06-01-2022 05:12PM

@Dav010

From watching TBBT, I was aware people with 'Dr.' titles didn't necessary mean MD.

It's some youtuber who is reporting on situation, it would be a sorry state if anyone was following Medical advice from the platform, even if the creator is actually an MD. Without consulting there own GP.

It is not like he hasn't shared his credentials.

timmyntc · 06-01-2022 05:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118427900#Comment_118427900

good info, but only covers the "4th wave" in 2021.

Rest of the reports are all limited timeframes, so there isnt any clarity on long-termers yet. They only report outcomes so far, if you are still in ICU you wont be reflected in that specific stat.

06-01-2022 05:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118428039#Comment_118428039

I appreciate that he "shares" his credentials, if you look for them. To be honest I thought he was a medical Dr myself when I for the first time watched a link provided by another poster, but when I looked a little deeper, of course he isn't. I suspect a lot just see the "Dr John Campbell" when watching his videos and don't realise he is not a medical Dr. I'm confident the poster who earlier referenced him did not know he wasn't a medical Dr when saying "Look at his credentials", unless Eddie thinks his actual credentials confer expertise on Covid. They don't.

Whilst I accept Wikipedia is not always accurate, it does reference a couple of instances where Dr John has spread misinformation on his Youtube videos, whether that allegation is accurate or not, I don't know. Hopefully he did not as he seems to be a good conduit for the simplification of new research. As long as he doesn't give advice, and people accept it under the assumption that the advice is coming from a medical Dr.

Apogee · 06-01-2022 05:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118428113#Comment_118428113

If the reported maximum stay is 90 days, and the report covers the period 27.06.2021 to 25.12.2021 (approx 180 days), does that rule out the scenario you were proposing?

[edit] I guess it depends on whether people still in ICU are reported in either of the categories or not. Though on the basis of the median numbers and the reported maximums, it would seem very unlikely.

silverharp · 06-01-2022 05:35PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118428121#Comment_118428121

I treat him as a decent news aggregator , after that you either like his style or not but certianly less irratating than listening to some gobsiite on Sky News or RTE

timmyntc · 06-01-2022 05:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118428152#Comment_118428152

No. The reported maximum stay is for maximum length of stay after discharge - the query is about people who have not yet been discharged (long term in ICU)

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