Cars to be fitted with speed limiters from July 2022.

I'm pretty sure giving all Irish drivers a gun would vastly improve road manners here too 😄

I agree that the klaxon might be a good idea but the exhaled air sensor wouldn't work. What if I am giving my friends a lift home from the nightclub/pub and they're all hammered? The sensor would sense their exhaled air and we wouldn't be allowed to drive.

I agree, this is a bit too much. I'd be getting that feature coded out of my car ASAP.

To be fair, the crashes are happening all around us. They happen every day. People die on our roads every week, and are seriously injured every day. Crashes on the M50 are reported with alarming regularity.

Most people are lucky most of the time. Most people can break speed limits with crashing most of the time.

I agree with you that education is critical. I'd push for regular re-testing of drivers to maintain a focus on continuing education. It's fairly ridiculous to done a once-in-a-lifetime test and be driving 20 or 30 years later with no assessment of skills or knowledge.

Not so common to switch lanes in the north of Spain when cars are merging.. I drive a very old diesel (65 hp, 22 years ago!!) and I have to be very strategic and careful when merging onto dual carriageways or motorways here (especially uphill) as a lot of drivers do not give the courtesy of actually moving over even when the outter lane is empty..

Obviously many drivers do switch lanes, like myself when it's safe to do so.. I see it as a lack of courtesy.

That's just deaths and is talking of drivers who were in accidents and doesn't separate out who caused the accident. A ridiculous all encompassing 65+ age category captures 80-90+ year olds who are likely frail and tend to die at a higher rate as a result of accidents that younger drivers would have survived. More risible inadequate Irish data collection and analysis. That rubbish you are basing your stupid opinin on captures old people who through no fault of their own, were hit by a drunk sub 25 young male driver and died and make the meaningless dead driver category in higher numbers due to age infirmities. The data is the wrong sort, is inadequately collected, is badly skewed and doesn't support your stupid notion.

I got my motorcycle and car licences when I was 18. You are suggesting I need a retest at 38 or 48 when the data clearly shows declining accident causality with age.

Follow the money - car insurance companies know whats what, which is why the premiums are lowest for people in just the age categories you deem to be unsafe. You think speeding is a significant cause of lots of accidents - 6% - and now you think the safest age categories of drivers can't be trusted to be behind the wheel and need to be retested. Have you considered getting an education and learning how to distinguish fact from fiction and how to think critically?

I suspect that most peoples frustration is to have a hard limit whereby the risk is completely variable.

Do speed limits get set based on the worst probable situations, i.e., wet dark, busy roads. If so, doing 20km/h over this limit shouldnt be an issue if conditions are more favourable.

This notion that its bad going over what is in affect an arbitary limit is a diluted argument. Limit cars to 160km/h I can understand but to have it match each limit on each road I think is over the top.

My vote would be have a tolerance above the limit allowed, say 20 - 30%.

"In 2016, uncorrected or defective eyesight contributed to more than 250 people suffering injuries on UK road"

In 2016 there were 181,384 road cccident cassualties in the UK.

Yeah, we need to spend many millions on tackling 0.1378 % of injuries when the national debt is already at €150,000 per income tax payer.

If they're not routinely breaking the speed limits, then they have nothing to fear from the speed limiters. They won't be affected at all.

They might move those signposts?? Maybe needs to be done anyway, this could force them to do what needs to be done

Relying on physical signs would be easily beaten as a system, you’ll get random jokers putting up cardboard signs with “120” painted on residential roads. Or a transparent mini display of the sort used currently in rearview mirror overlays which attaches in front of the camera lens and occasionally flashes the image of a sign saying “120” at random intervals. Or just throw some dirt on the camera lens and watch the system fail.

relying on GPS and a database of street speed limits would have the problem of what to do when gps is not available - presumably these cars aren’t only going to be sold in Ireland. Again, you’d get jokers going around with GPS jammers so either everyone’s car stops, or everyone can break the speed limit (whatever behaviour the manufacturers choose for when no GPS signal). Or else just drive around with a gps jammer yourself and break the limit all day.

based on all the above, the best they could actually enforce effectively with current technology would be an absolute top speed limit on every car, fixed at say 130kph or something. It’s going to prevent **** all deaths - I don’t know how many people die a year due to speeding over 130kph but it’s not the majority of road fatalities

stupid, expensive, unworkable idea that might be profitable to car companies, but no one else. At present anyway…

We have CARnage today, with 2 or 3 people killed on the roads each week and speeding being one of the major causes of road deaths?

Ok, let's look at it another way then.

What do you think are the major causes of the 150-ish deaths on the road each year?