Cars to be fitted with speed limiters from July 2022.

Im surprised there isn't much more resistance to this type of thing. Governments and d'EU have been hassling us for years slowly trying to kill off the whole car scene. You can bet your bottom dolla that the likes of Google are lobbying them for mandatory driverless cars.

This is far from the only thing they have done. You have to look at the whole picture, what will it be like in 10-15 years time if they succeed in implementing all their nasties? I am guessing not a whole lot of craic

The more you delve into something, the list of "edge cases" grows and grows to be a very sizable list. If each of these are then handled marginally different by manufacturers, rushed to production to satisfy legislation (rather than human nature) and lauded by politicians as road death magic wand, then there is a real potential that drivers will put far too much faith in a system that they don't understand and which underperforms.

ie:"I don't need to worry about  ̶l̶i̶g̶h̶t̶s̶ appropriate speed for the conditions, my brand new car handles it all for me".

As has happened with DRL's and "Auto lights", I'm confident that we have now have more cars than ever driving around in the dark with no rear lights on. I just hope we don't get similar unintended consequences with speed limiters.

Right now though, that's an extra feature, it's not a safety critical system that might cause you to lose engine power if it makes a mistake.

As an aside 2016 BMW cannot show my speed in km/h on a digital display, so I'm left with a tiny km/h dial or memorising a list of conversions. All other units on the car have been swapped to metric, but Cruise Control (hard coded to the instrument cluster) is stuck in mph. My previous 2013 could do both.

Going to be some very interesting incidents when all these cars hit the road and Joe public goes for their normal overtake in their shiny new car only to lose power halfway though, can see a lot of very dangerous situations until people cop on to it!

Seriously one of my friends works for a main dealer and its ridiculous the things people bring their new cars back in for claiming its broken but its just some new safety system they don't know how to work like radar crash alerts, adaptive cruise or speed sign reading cruise control!

I think there will be a lot of disabling of GPS antennae in future cars.

I was looking at potential change to my car, and was looking at a Volvo V70 t8. Looking at the specs, I see that all new Volvo's are limited to 180km/h.

A quick YouTube later and I see that a guy using vdash, quickly updated the car so that the nav was enabled and the top speed was charged to 250km/h.

If someone wants to get around the EU speed limiting devices, it seems to be easy enough to do.

... Asking for a friend.. anyone handy with a vdash system in the cork area? Might be good to have a contact for the future.

https://youtu.be/nQh9FjeU1eo

There's a second part to this - education to aid compliance with limits. A speed limiter will not fix urban road deaths.

If 98% of motorists break urban speed limits, and speed is such an abhorrent danger that we need to enforce speed limiting devices, where are all the crashed where speed is a primary factor?

I'm not try to be smart btw, I know speed can be a problem from cycling in Dublin city - how do you actually get people to understand something which is exceptionally unlikely to result in a collision for them personally? It's mostly people accelerating toward green or orange lights - red light cameras would be much better used of resources IMO.

My driving tester would seem to agree with you. I broke the limit during the test and passed it fine. Paraphrasing here but it was along the lines of. "You were over the limit a few times, but I'm not concerned about that, you were keeping up with traffic. Just try to keep an eye on it in future is all."

I already predict the responses to me posting an anecdote which some people won't like. "I call BS, no tester would say this". "Yeak, that didn't happen" "Do you have proof of this?" 😩

I think driving should be a lesson taught in school like it is in America. I was driving in LA a few years ago on their insane motorway networks and the level of driving was incredible. Say what you want about Americans but you cannot fault their driving abilities.