War criminal Tony Blair to be given most senior knighthood in new year honours list

I'm just making the point that in everyday language the word criminal can denote someone who has committed, but not been convicted of, criminal acts.

And then was forced to resign because it wasn't universal.

Gaddafi, a good friend of Ireland was taken down in collaboration with Western media feeding the public lies to make them believe that interfering in Libya was necessary, Libya was one of the most well off African countries with one of the highest standards of living yet the west expect us to believe this was some sort of humanitarian mission?

Western media claimed that he was using ''rape as a weapon'' Human rights organisations did cast doubt later on about claims of mass rape and other abuses perpetrated by forces loyal to Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, which have been widely used to justify Nato's war in Libya.

Nato leaders, opposition groups and the media have produced a stream of stories since the start of the insurrection on 15 February, claiming the Gaddafi regime has ordered mass rapes, used foreign mercenaries and employed helicopters against civilian protesters.

An investigation by Amnesty International has failed to find evidence for these human rights violations and in many cases has discredited or cast doubt on them. It also found indications that on several occasions the rebels in Benghazi appeared to have knowingly made false claims or manufactured evidence which western media then took at face value in order to bolster support for the war.

The gassing occured during the period when Saddam was considered a western ally and was in receipt of western aid during his war against iran. N o action was taken against him.

It was Blair who destroyed Labour. He achieved medium-term success by dragging the party to the right and essentially becoming a clean and 'nice' version of the Tories. Labour voters voted for him because it was (nominally, at least) Labour. Loads of Tories voted for him too because their policies posed no threat to the rich. The Tories were always going to get their act together eventually, clean themselves up a little (on the exterior, at least) and win those voters back. It left Labour with nowhere to go, except back towards genuine left-leaning politics.

Corbyn peaked in 2017 and should've gone then. The anti-Semitism nonsense was really ramped up after that election. There's no way the British establishment was going to let a left-winger get that close to power again.

Over a decade in power is hardly 'medium-term' success. Their image was hardly a 'clean and nice' version of the Tories, it was a more less ideological clean and nice version of a hard socialist left.

Not sure if mentioned but a great documentary about New Labour on the BBC iPlayer.

They never would've won with Corbyn, and they didn't. Simple fact is labour have always been notorious for losing but for the first time in their history won 3 consequitive elections under Blair. It's more success than they have ever had.

I agree, he still would not have won however. One of the biggest turn offs for me with Boris was his cowardice in not facing Andrew Neill as he knew he'd get a pasting.