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Will you be taking a booster?

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  • Posts: 1,159 [Deleted User]


    Friend had an appointment for Swords today and it was the same there. It was supposed to be appointment only in the morning but they weren't checking and let loads of walk-ins through. Took an hour and a half to get through.

    Seems a lot quieter down the country which suggests they have (again) underestimated the capacity needed in Dublin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,426 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    Went to Cork City Hall this morning at 10am - was out by 10.05am - grand and fast, no queue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭LawBoy2018


    I have Covid at the minute but I can't get an appointment for a test. I will be annoyed if I don't get one AND I'm forced to get a booster in a month or two



  • Posts: 1,159 [Deleted User]


    Ring your GP and they can refer you for a test.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭PaoloGotti


    Got my Moderna booster yesterday morning; fever, aches and fatigue since yesterday afternoon.

    I had Covid this time last year and this booster illness is slightly worse.

    I was pro vaccine but now that more restrictions are being enforced and my experience of my booster illness, I have to question the overall efficacy of the whole booster programme.

    Edit: to clarify: I question the point of the boosters for low risk groups; if you are vulnerable then by all means. But me getting a booster has shown to not curb the spread of the virus to any significant degree.

    Post edited by PaoloGotti on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    My illness after the 2nd Moderna was much worse than most of the accounts I’m reading of Omicron infection. There’s no way I’m chancing a booster, I’d much rather catch this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭Mr rebel


    Yep I totally agree and I currently have the exact same side effects as you too having got Moderna yesterday. I was also knocked out after my second Pfizer jab but this one feels even worse than that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,992 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Had mine at 11:25 and was out by 11:35 and there were two lines one with appointments and one for walk ups, or at least that’s how it seemed. I felt they had a better system in place to get you registered in there then when I went there in the summer. I feel grand though which is good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    Moderna seems to be causing more side effects for those who had Pfizer before. What's it like for those who had Moderna before?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    Edit - misread question



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭crisco10


    Anybody get pins and needles in their leg after moderna booster? Have had a friend saying that today, seems pretty random!



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,760 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    I got my Pfizer booster 9 days ago and I'm still not 100% after it, still very fatigued and with daily headaches. This is very different to the initial two doses whereby I only felt a bit fatigued and a mild headache for a day or two. After 9 days I'm wondering how long more is left in it. Anyone else have a similar experience?

    Of course there's also the possibility that it's covid itself but have taken two antigen tests which were both negative. Currently unable to book a test.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,369 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I agree and the Moderna booster is only a half dose of the originals.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭lmimmfn


    Got a text for booster, sent reject, 0 interest in boosters every 6 months, 3 months/whatever, bring on the covid!!!

    Ignoring idiots who comment "far right" because they don't even know what it means



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 913 ✭✭✭doc22


    Got Moderna booster after Pfizer and I feel the same....no affects after Pfizer but the Moderna booster knocked me out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭nialler1978


    There was a doctors surgery with multiple doctors near where I lived for a brief period, I went on a one off visit for prescription renewal a long time ago and that was that. In the last 2 weeks I have been bombarded with texts from them to get the booster, almost spam like. I think this really highlights the profiteering element of this entire charade, they are not doing this out of concern for my well being. I heard absolutely nothing from them when the initial vaccines were being administered.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,646 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    I think they're under direction from the government to do this. Received a couple texts from a local GP who knows I haven't been a patient there for years. Frankly, I've no problem with it as people avoid going to the Dr and this may catch a few that haven't got their jabs yet. It's just a text, easily ignored.



  • Posts: 14,708 [Deleted User]


    Just to dispel this stupid notion that GPs are profiteering from giving Covid vaccine. The payment for the vaccine is lower than the cost of a GP appointment. Many GPs opted out of the vaccine because of the affect on patient appointments. I own a Clinic which has GPs, they would prefer to focus on ill patients and the reception staff could most certainly do without the constant stream of phone calls from patients who are not yet due for the booster. Your name goes on a database and if you are in the category entitled to a booster, the text goes out, that directive comes from the HSE, not the GP. Trust me, you are just a PPS/telephone number, the reason you didn’t hear from them initially was because if it was a long time since your last visit, under GDPR your details would be removed from their contact database, your recent visit reactivated them.

    It really is astonishing to see how misinformed some are two years into this.

    There is absolutely no doubt that omicrone will not be the last letter of the Greek alphabet we will get to learn, so being registered there and them being proactive may benefit you someday. Assuming of course you understand the benefits of both the Clinic and the vaccine. No guarantee of that.

    Incidentally, you can request that they delete your details. Give them a call.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭nialler1978


    This didn’t drive me into any uncontrollable rage, but I’d disagree with your very innocent assumption that it’s “to catch those that avoid the doctor” as if it’s kind gentle reminder looking out for people. As I said they weren’t sending these messages when the initial vaccines were being administered. Call it as it is, it’s profiteering trying to get as many in as possible and it is by definition spam, an unsolicited message sent to many seeking to gain in some way from it.



  • Posts: 14,708 [Deleted User]


    Sorry, I edited my post while you were typing. If it was a long time since your last visit, under GDPR rules you are removed from the Clinics contact database. Hence why you weren’t contacted for the vaccine, and why after your recent visit, your details were added again to the database. Again, you can have them removed, that is your right.

    Nialler, in case economics is not your strong point, I’ll try to make this clearer. There is a shortage of GPs in Ireland, as a result, GPs are overwhelmed, particularly this time of the year. The shortage is so bad, that many people cannot even find a Clinic willing to register them. The fee for vaccination is considerably less that what most GPs charge for a visit. So, in your opinion, is it profiteering when you receive LESS money for the service you provide? That would certainly be a unique perspective, especially when the directive comes from the HSE, not the Clinic.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭nialler1978


    I went once to this surgery once in 2011 for prescription renewal. I haven’t been to them since.

    Are you saying that doctors surgeries are not profiting from administering a booster vaccine? And are you seriously making a comparison between somebody attending an appointment, discussing an ailment and subsequently being assessed, diagnosed and given some kind of recommended treatment to somebody being given a routine jab in the arm which by testimony of many here is a process which took no more than ten minutes in and out? If so, that’s ridiculous.



  • Posts: 8,717 [Deleted User]


    Are you saying that doctors surgeries are not profiting from administering a booster vaccine? And are you seriously making a comparison between somebody attending an appointment, discussing an ailment and subsequently being assessed, diagnosed and given some kind of recommended treatment to somebody being given a routine jab in the arm which by testimony of many here is a process which took no more than ten minutes in and out? If so, that’s ridiculous.

    Yes, he is saying that, because it's factual. You're talking to someone who owns a clinic and therefore knows the finances of such things better than you do. Your only argument is that they are outright lying to you, which is cringey at best.

    GPs are overwhelmed, there is no need for them to advertise anything. They are only doing so under the directive of the HSE.



  • Posts: 14,708 [Deleted User]


    If your last visit was 2011, that certainly explains why the clinic did not contact you in relation to the first vaccine. Charts remain active for 8 yrs since last visit, and numbers must be removed from contact database under GDPR rules.

    I can assure you Nialler, there is a world of difference between a person visiting a vaccination centre and visiting their GP for a vaccine. The visits are often a combination of vaccine and discussion of other issues. Do not be under any illusions, vaccinations in GPs are not profit generators, they are actually the opposite, but GPs feel it is their duty to their patients, but many do not.

    Nialler, if you feel they are profiteering, I would urge you to contact the clinic today. Tell them you want to be removed from their database, that way they will not have to comply with the HSE in relation to you. It is simple to do, and it is your right.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭nialler1978


    so it’s a ten minute routine job to assess, diagnose and provide treatment for every individual that sees a doctor for an appointment.

    ive no idea what your lying to me or cringey comment refers to.

    so are you also saying that the doctors are not profiting from the booster programme and the more they administer the more profit will be made?



  • Posts: 8,717 [Deleted User]


    1) How much profit does the average GP make per non-vaccine GP visit?

    2) How much profit does the average GP make per vaccine appointment?

    3) How long do both of the above take on average?

    If you don't know the answer to those three questions, then you don't know what you're talking about.

    My guess is that you don't know the answer to 1), possibly 2) and that you've incorrectly assumed that getting a vaccine at a GP takes the same amount of the time as it does at a vaccination centre.



  • Posts: 14,708 [Deleted User]


    I am telling you, in comparison to normal sessions, vaccinations pay less. I’ll have to check but I think it’s around €30 for a vaccine as opposed to an average of €50-€70 for a GP appointment. It is also worth bearing in mind that up until recently the patients had to wait 15mins for observation after vaccination which severely limited the numbers of patients GPs could jab. In effect, that meant every patient was inside the clinic for at least 30mins.

    Its not that I am lying or cringy, it’s that you don’t understand the subject matter so it is taking longer to explain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭nialler1978


    in a roundabout and somewhat insulting way you’ve agreed that GPs do indeed profit from administered boosters but vaguely suggest it’s not as much as it would be if they were running their day to day operations. I would rightly say, that all depends on how many vaccines are administered so perhaps the surgery that I went to who are on top of their spam sms operation are probably doing quite well out of it, why else do it.

    I already said, the ten minutes estimate was based on testimony from users here, there was one only a few post back from someone who went into a chemist and said it was ten minutes, a GPs surgery would have to be there about also.



  • Posts: 8,717 [Deleted User]


    in a roundabout and somewhat insulting way you’ve agreed that GPs do indeed profit from administered boosters but vaguely suggest it’s not as much as it would be if they were running their day to day operations.

    Eh, no I didn't, not even a little bit. You're really clinging to straws aren't you?

    I would rightly say, that all depends on how many vaccines are administered so perhaps the surgery that I went to who are on top of their spam sms operation are probably doing quite well out of it, why else do it.

    Because they are directed to do by the HSE. You are free to answer my questions specifically for your GP if you wish rather than deflecting again.

    I already said, the ten minutes estimate was based on testimony from users here, there was one only a few post back from someone who went into a chemist and said it was ten minutes, a GPs surgery would have to be there about also.

    As has already been explained to you by someone who owns a clinic, this is incorrect.



  • Posts: 14,708 [Deleted User]


    Niall. Ok, I’m going to say this as simply as possible.

    All GPs are extremely busy this time of year, if they are earning approx half what they would doing a normal patient session, that is not profiteering. In fact, most people who have even a vague understanding of business would see that as a loss.

    So why you think GPs are profiteering from following a HSE directive to vaccinate as many people as possible really is unfathomable.

    There is unfortunately no vaccine for this type of thinking.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭nialler1978


    Dav010, lay off the poor attempts at subtle put downs, is it necessary? You’ve no expert insight knowledge on this and you’re on a meaningless silly little internet forum banging away on a keyboard or phone with your two cents worth, no more, no less. Seriously, think about it.

    see ye fellas. Have a nice day and happy new year.



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