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The Book Of Boba Fett - Disney+ (**Spoilers**)

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Yeah I was thinking about this as well. Episode II established that Boba was a clone of Jango. The regular clones had accelerated growth which meant they grew to adulthood twice as fast. Potentially they kept growing old afterwards. However the Kaminoans told Obi-wan that Boba was an unaltered clone and didn't have accelerated ageing, but maybe they lied or their cloning wasn't as perfect as they claimed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Seeing the scene of Bona holding Jango's helmet reminded me of the question about why Jango's head didn't fall out.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username


    Morrison doesn’t look 60 to be honest

    but then Hamill didn’t look 18 (or 20) either

    don’t people age differently in outer space ?

    I can understand the annoyance. Bugs me no end that they had two actors playing Howard Stark in the MCU and that one of them looks like RDJ and one doesn’t

    Kenobi’s age also doesn’t match between the trilogies



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username


    I forgot about the aging. Rex is a lot older in Rebels than a normal person would be



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username


    And how it happens in the tv show is way better than these so I don’t see what th point is

    :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,542 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Morrison looks his age.

    He certainly does NOT look like a guy in his mid to late 30's that's for damn sure.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username


    I wasn’t saying he looks 30, just that he doesn’t look 60. No need to get melodramatic.

    Kenobi’s age in the Prequels doesn’t match his age in the OT.

    Yes, Fett should only be 36 or there about in this show - maybe they will reveal that he doesn’t age normally, not as fast a Clone but not like a human either. Or we have to make it up ourselves.

    I’d rather have this plot hole than no Temura Morrison.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,542 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I not the one getting "melodramatic". Nor am I trying to make excuses for a TV show.

    The guy looks his age and it looks a bit silly if anyone traces the timeline.

    Personally, I couldn't give a toss about Boba Fett or most of Star Wars to be honest as it's largely rubbish. But it's continually taking me out of his resurrection, whether it's here or in 'The Mandalorian'.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username


    The melodrama is in claiming I said something that I didn’t.

    I’m not making excuses for a TV show just having a conversation. but it is a rather odd thing to say when you criticising the age of of fictional characters, etc.

    Again he doesn’t look 60

    and if you don’t give a toss about Boba Fett or most Star Wars because you think it is rubbish then why are you watching it and why are you on a discussion website about it?

    and I’m not saying you aren’t allow to watch it or post about it, just asking you why you are devoting time to something you consider to be rubbish



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,542 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I'm not going round the houses on this with you.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username


    I’d that like “give me back my ball I’m going home” ?

    You are bit sensitive about this especially considering you don’t like most of the rubbish

    or was it just that I asked why you spending time on something that is rubbish to you? Like I said - you can watch and discuss stuff you like and stuff you don’t like all you want - I was just asking why you want to



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭newirishman


    bookmarked...



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username


    What does that mean?


    someone posted that earlier



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    That was how he got out in the Mandalorian armour book series aswell



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭Relikk


    Yeah, I just remembered/realised that particular scene takes place in the past and Boba isn't aware of a "mayor" yet.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username


    I don’t think I was explaining myself properly.

    Jabba was the power on Tatooine (and based on this episode all his vassals seems to be on Tatooine - that is what I got from it anyway) and there would be a calm of sorts so when Luke and friends took him down there was in control of the various criminal elements so there would be chaos while the various heads tried to defend themselves or take more territory plus you’d have the thugs trying to stake a claim.

    even years later things could still be unstable.

    so the Mayor is obvious a major player but there are others too.

    assuming the Mayor was mayor during Jabba’s time I doubt his guys would be beating up a farmer to rob canister of water.

    I think those thugs are just thugs.

    in regards to the Mayor I hope the parkour guys are not his. The minion was very very self assured and talking down to Fett - if he is like that the Mayor will be on another level. So I think it would be fun if the Mayor doesn’t need to send in muscle (at this stage) becasuebhe isn’t worried about Fett or taking him seriously - and when he realises Fett needs to be taken seriously that he is a strategist and a slippery politician - he thinks. The muscle will be a last resort.

    There seems to be plenty of other guys to send thugs after Fett.

    I might be way way off though…



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭Relikk


    No, I understood what you said, but I was referring to my own speculation (that's more than likely way off now), as in my head I knew that scene played out in the past, but I was basing my theory off of the present events after Boba takes over, so it doesn't apply. I could substitute the mayor for Bib Fortuna and it might work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,304 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    I thought episode one was good if not great, the flashing back and forward thing kind of takes you out of of each timeline. Some of the costumes did look a bit rubbery, and that monster in the desert felt a tad Harryhausen...the "parkour" thing on the rooftop also wasn't great tbh.

    Fun enough for me to stick with it for the series.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,669 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    The sand alien immediately reminded me of





  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Caught the first episode and ehhhhh ... It was ok. The Mandalorian took a while to grab me too so no decisions yet, but as someone in the thread already commented: I wondering what the point of the show was?

    If this wasn't Star Wars, would I care? Probably not, but then if this wasn't Star Wars maybe more care would be taken to establish a definite premise or motivation. Clearly the show assumes its viewers know who Boba Fett is and moving from there...

    And while not a blocker in of itself, I am so thoroughly sick of Tatooine in Star Wars. Maybe that's just me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,249 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    While we are talking ages Ming-Na Wen is 58 and still doing most of her own stunts as far as I'm aware.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username


    you not looking forward to the Kenobi series then I take it? ;)

    I’ve had enough of the desert and desert type planets, Lucasfilm need to recruit some boffins to explain to them that desert and barren rocky worlds are not places were people would go to live



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,542 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    "Tattooine" is a cheap location.

    I'm in the same boat though. I just don't see the point of this show, especially when 'The Mandalorian' is about. They're essentially the same bloke. At least as far as bounty hunters in fancy suits are concerned. 'The Mandalorian' just makes this Boba Fett show completely redundant really. But now that there's two shows with similar blokes, they both kinda take from each other.

    TBH, I'd have much preferred Mando S03 than this thing, no matter how good it might turn out to be.

    As for the show itself, it's definitely aimed at a cadre that's familiar with both Star Wars and especially Boba Fett. My poor missus hadn't a bull's notion what what was going on, especially in the flashbacks. But she was all in with 'The Mandalorian'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    apart from both wearing mandalorian armour what is the similarity between the two? they have completely different characters.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I'm hoping Kenobi gives some excuse to leave Tatoinne. One of the joys of Mandalorian was visiting these other planets and vistas, that virtual set put to great use there. Tatoinne is supposed to be the back àrse of nowhere but SW can't help tying itself to that bloody planet. And if it ain't Tatoinne it's their non union equivalents like Jaaku or that other desert planet from Episode IX 🙄

    Its funny. Streaming has kinda allowed for more lackadaisical pacing, shows behaving like sprawling visual novels, episodes like chapters, than traditional serialised television. Which can be cool; when it works it makes TV a really engrossing medium. But even the most dawdling of shows tend to drop a shoe by episodes end. At the end of episode 1 of this, I kinda went "is that It??".



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    And she still looks at least 10 years younger than that: those are some genes she has. Had wondered about the stunts cos the fight scene had a distinct Agents of SHIELD feel to them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username


    The armour and that they have both been bounty hunters and that neither is an actual Mandolorian by birth.

    their personalities are different and as are their goals in life.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username


    That isn’t the family genes - I have lived in China and many women look far younger than they are. You could genuinely not tell and mother and daughter apart sometimes.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username


    I was hoping that that series was really going to get deep into the Force and what it is and show Kenobi studying it and the general hardship of life there along with with some interactions with Lars, Beru and young Luke. And other than the locals who would know him as a weirdo then not many others. And that Hayden Christiansen would feature in flashbacks and visions.

    I had seen people thought a rematch with Vader was happening and I assumed it was just fan **** but apparently McGregor was hinting at it (although he could be deflecting).

    Sonwheter it is flashbacks or Kenobi has to go off world I think we will see other locations. If that is so then I hope it modern cities and alien forests - not a trip to another planet of sand and rock.

    Kenobi and Boba Fett have to be on Tatooine (Fett can always relocate later if the series continues). Mandalorian has been to a sand planet in the premiere and Tatooine twice and Greef Kraga’s world is that kind of place but at the least the show has been to a forest planet, ice planet and a few cities/towns.

    Are Filoni and Favereau on Twitter? Someone could always tell them “enough bloody sand already” in ALL the shows. Including the ones yet to come.

    As to the Sequels, less said the better….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,403 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Just watched the first episode there, what is it meant to be? It was an incredibly slow burner.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I guess the show will chart Fett's slow rise to dominance, maybe episode a clash with each local power resisting his grab. But damned if I can see where character growth or arcs will come from; Fett seems fairly ready baked, so to speak. Not like The Mandalorian, where you could tell from the off where the emotional road was going to go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    you could hardly describe them as "essentially the same bloke" then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,880 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Jennifer Beals is 58 as well and look amazing for her age.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,463 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    I'd be a casual fan I suppose.

    I thought it was decent enough and looking forward to next episode.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username


    Sorry I misunderstood your post .

    I read it on its own not realising you were responding to the previous one which I had not read.

    I thought you were someone new to the franchise comparing the two characters and that maybe English was not your first language

    I see now that your English is fine but that both my reading and comprehension skills were not in full working order

    Mortified and justly so



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,542 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Sure. But what I mean is that it's obvious that Ding Dong was a knockoff Boba Fett and 'The Mandalorian' is basically the Boba Fett show, without Boba Fett. I'm just curious as to why Disney just didn't have the balls in the first place to make 'The Mandalorian' about Fett. Why the pussyfooting around?

    Were they afraid that casuals wouldn't take to a 3rd tier bad guy as the central character? So they made the goody two shoes version instead? It's curious.

    But now, there's two TV shows with two guys in the same suit making each other kinda redundant in a way. There's just no real point to this show.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    It IS a bit strange all right. I'd say with Mando, Disney wanted the cool armour and marketable iconography - just without the canon baggage that came with Fett. But then season 2 seemed way more eager to drop in cameos and spin-off teases, including Mr Fett. So maybe Disney panicked, overcorrected when fans blew up over the (admittedly punchy) return of the bounty Hunter



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username


    You seem to think someone at Disney created The Mandalorian.

    They might have recognised the marketability of the cool imagery once it was shown to them but you must be mad if you think anyone at Disney has enough of a grasp on the franchise to come up with an idea for it.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I think Disney are completely reactive when it comes to all things Star Wars, Rise of Skywalker signals that 100% - but they're still the warm bodies that hold the power; maybe Favreau and Filoni have had enough industry nous over what would sell to those green-lighting the shows. Who knows. We can only speculate being a bunch of bored randos, but it is weird the two aired shows so far have been such ... oddly similar characters (visually at least).

    It doesn't really matter in the long run, not if the two shows are entertaining, and that's where this first episode dropped the ball, ultimately. It was fine, but left a weird aftertaste all the same.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    @Tony EH @Need a Username quit bickering. Agree to disagree, take it to PM. Don't think we need this kind of needling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,542 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I think that's probably close. They were maybe a bit antsy and unsure just how people outside of the Boba Fett fanclub would take to a villain being top billing in the first live action Star Wars TV show. I personally thought that having Fett appear in 'The Mandalorian' was awful. But then, I think his resurrection is awful too. But dead doesn't mean dead in Star Wars.

    I suppose that when the fans went ape, they solidified their resolve. But something tells me that the Boba Fett show was on the minds of Disney for some time and 'The Mandalorian' might have been an effort to ease the passage, as it were.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,542 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username


    I don’t know how the whole studio thing works there is enough information and gossip from behind the scenes on the movies and enough evidence on screen with the Sequels that Disney haven’t a clue when it comes to Star Wars.

    Mando is Favereau’ s own creation and not something cooked up by suits.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username


    There was no bickering or needling from me.

    I’m genuinely curious why someone would devote time to something they said they dislike.

    I can live without the answer though. ;)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    It was alright. Nothing gripping as yet. I was worried that it would be heavy on politics which could be very dull. It seems the flashbacks will provide most of the interesting bits.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,810 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Well the way Favreau tells it bringing back Boba was entirely a brainwave of his, he needed the character to advance the plot of Mando S2. We don't have to believe this I suppose, but I don't get the impression Disney are working to any great masterplan and on the contrary seem willing to sign off on whatever 'cool' idea their showrunners come up with, irrespective of how well it ties in with the 'canon'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,542 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    How did Boba Fett advance the plot of 'The Mandalorian'? If he never appeared it would have played out in a similar fashion anyway. He isn't important in any way to the central story.

    As for Disney's lack of plan, I agree. That's been pretty apparent from nearly the beginning. They simply have no clue what to do with this thing which is why the sequels and 'Solo' were floundering messes.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Also worth reminding Boba Fett and Kenobi were meant to get spin off movies til Solo burned out spectacularly. I guess Disney didn't abandon the idea completely and saw potential in Disney+, itself needing "content" to fill its ranks.

    Re. Fett's appearance in Mandalorian, I suppose he and Katie Sackoff's character helped expand Mando's own arc and stature by showing where he stood in Mandalorian culture, giving us some insight into the larger shape of the world. We learned our hero was actually a bit of a religious zealot of all things, then nicely tying in with the Bill Barr episode when that zealotry made a necessary infiltration difficult. Fett was, ultimately, fan service but at least he had a vague point and not a complete "please applaud" moment



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