Comreg Siteviewer accurate?

smuggler.ie · 14-06-2021 3:50pm

grimeire wrote: »

Im am after doing a tonne of loops around and 3737 has barely moved. I believe it is on the same tower as 3736 or 398. From what i can see i only ever pick up 3737 on a small stretch of road outside my house. Not sure is it going to be possible to correlate exactly where it is since i can only detect it on a small stretch.

Cant speak for sure, but feels like i am facing similar situations as i had back in Jan. Brand new cell ID start appearing out of blue and its again on B1. ID number does not correspond to any local masts.
Not able to catch it on the phone yet... well, few days ago i had to reinstall fresh the app and lost ~30K points of data - got failing to upload for whatever reason. It could have be in there, so have to do another spin at some point.
Perhaps your 3737 similarly far away(~10km) and god know what direction.

Have you got chance to check that app ED E suggested?

grimeire · 15-06-2021 1:03pm

smuggler.ie wrote: »

Have you got chance to check that app ED E suggested?

The one that requires a root to force a band? If so yes but as there is a few other cells in my area on band 1 it has not made much of a difference as i barely ever see that cell. I think that app is only good to stay on a band to maximise speed by forcing band on the phone and not much good for cell mapping as you will detect all the cells on the ENB if you detect to any cell on it. If your phone does not detect the cell its not much good as the phone cant be forced to connect to the cell/band.

I dont think 3737 is far away as it is showing as in the same location 3736 and 398 were until they finally moved to their correct location and also there is a bit of a dip in the road where i can connecting to it so it makes sense that it could not be too far away as i doubt any other cells could reach that dip in the road.

Weird thing is if i drive next to 3736 and 398 i can pick them up but dont pick up 3737 so its a mystery. I cant drive in front of the towers due to where they are located in the commercial estate so that may be why i cant connect to it there as the cell targets a very narrow area.

smuggler.ie · 15-06-2021 1:23pm

grimeire wrote: »

Weird thing is if i drive next to 3736 and 398 i can pick them up but dont pick up 3737 so its a mystery. I cant drive in front of the towers due to where they are located in the commercial estate so that may be why i cant connect to it there as the cell targets a very narrow area.

Well... on other hand, if that cell is not in this location and signal breaking its way through narrow, less obstructed path...

It took me to spin ~10Km radius to avail to pinpoint cell i discovered in Jan. and it actually was quite opposite direction than it appeared for first few days.
Basically, if cell not moving while you drive same routes - drive new routes instead

grimeire · 27-06-2021 10:17am

smuggler.ie wrote: »

Well... on other hand, if that cell is not in this location and signal breaking its way through narrow, less obstructed path...

It took me to spin ~10Km radius to avail to pinpoint cell i discovered in Jan. and it actually was quite opposite direction than it appeared for first few days.
Basically, if cell not moving while you drive same routes - drive new routes instead

I find it unlikely the cell could be on another tower due to the area i see my phone connected to it being in valley. There would be too much obstructions for the cell to be on any other tower. I dont think there is much more roads i could go down unless i drive around a few housing estates.

The 3737 cell is nightmare im connected to it more often than not now with <20Mb speeds.

ED E · 29-12-2021 7:40pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117419097#Comment_117419097

I think CMs current guestimate is probably close to right in that its one of the existing sites.

https://imgur.com/o7Sl5Jr

https://i.imgur.com/DAHkKYk

https://i.imgur.com/SQNlEF9.png

PS: What the hell, how did they build a pylon in the gardens like this? [Imgur](https://imgur.com/ulN0H8v) Never seen them THAT awkwardly placed.

Per Siteviewer: VF: Two "sites". MMC: Two "sites", 3: Three "sites".

Three:

Services

NR

As a site with 5G you'd hope for decent capacity. Any chance you own a DSLR/Mirrorless with a long lens Grim? Maps imagery is from 2011.

398:

First SeenSun, Apr 21, 2019

Last SeenSun, Oct 11, 2020

Needs deletion.

ED E · 29-12-2021 7:54pm

New state: 3736 is moved onto the actual site (about 20m east), 3737 co-located. 398 Deleted.

1098: Solid fix on the supervalu. Set.

4855/56 should be two tiers on the same site. Not clear on where they are.

grimeire · 20-01-2022 10:45am

@ED E Thanks for checking this i forgot all about it.

pylon in the gardens. WTF my mate was building a house and it was within 100 meters or something from a pylon and he had to pay to have it moved. How the heck is it in that persons garden. Do you have the GPS location or a better image on a map of that cause i need to see that for myself?

I dont even know what a DSLR/Mirrorless is but i assume its a camera.😶

In the commercial park where 3737 and 3736 are there is actually 2 different towers. there is the one the ENBs are showing on and another about 20 meters away. I have seen these towers with my own two eyes. You can probably ask the people in that commercial park do they know me as i was often just parked up or driving around in there for hours trying to connect to the cells.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/Zl9oubg.png[/img]

I see you moved the cell 3737 is there a reason why it did not auto move and how did you know it was there. As you can probably see i have driven all over that area endless times and it was still showing in the totally wrong place.

ED E · 23-01-2022 3:12pm

Pylon: https://goo.gl/maps/BKbEbAeFJ8STaRNz9

I dont even know what a DSLR/Mirrorless is but i assume its a camera.

Yep, just big cameras.

In the commercial park where 3737 and 3736 are there is actually 2 different towers. there is the one the ENBs are showing on and another about 20 meters away. I have seen these towers with my own two eyes. You can probably ask the people in that commercial park do they know me as i was often just parked up or driving around in there for hours trying to connect to the cells.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/Zl9oubg.png[/img]

I see you moved the cell 3737 is there a reason why it did not auto move and how did you know it was there. As you can probably see i have driven all over that area endless times and it was still showing in the totally wrong place.

That situation is a bit of a guess. Unfortunately from some other mapping done recently it looks like COMREG are being very very tardy in updating SiteViewer so we can't really be sure whats what when referring to it.

The different MNOs use different schemes but with Three two sequential IDs seems to represent co-located nodes.

3736 - 1,2,20,28

3737 - 1

So in this instance its added band one (IMT) on a second tier. Band 1 is 2100Mhz so middle of the pack for speed/range. 15Mhz blocks it seems which is decent.

To be clear - both eNBs could be on the eastern or western tower, but they're likely on the same one. Siteviewer hints historically they were using the eastern one so I selected that.

Comreg Siteviewer accurate?

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