You wake up and It's January 2020

Ursula should've gotten straight onto Tony Holohan and Philip Nolan to tap into their world renowned expertise on Covid.

He did. Though it hurts a bit to admit it was indeed one of his better ideas, which was lamented as completely unnecessary and “unfair”.

If I recall correct only American citizens & permanent residents could enter the states or possibly board a plane I can’t remember but you 100% could not enter the states unless you were a citizen or resident.

I’m not sure of all that was said to decry it, but it didn’t take long for many countries to follow suit and trump to predictably use that as an example of how the media are so mean to him.

I reckon it didn’t help his case given his insistence to call covid the “China virus” that or the fact he was already losing the plot completely and had embarrassed himself on numerous occasions since the prior November.

At that point I honestly think if he’d snapped his fingers and eradicated covid there and then he STILL would’ve been critiqued for it somehow. I guess it wasn’t so much what he did was inherently bad, he’d just pissed on everyone’s Sunday dinners too many times & they were sick of it.

can’t blame them anyway.

Over dramatic nonsense.

But in terms of their being no forgiveness, would you say the same about SF?

I'd have moved to New Zealand for a few years, probably the south island, away from Auckland.

Eh no. I comply with restrictions but this sounds awful.

I can’t disagree tbh

the likes of Gemma O Donkey etc should be dealt with by some strict measures since the likes of them can’t be reasoned with.

remove them from the equation altogether right from the get go. I suspect were she and her donkey counterparts not allowed to roam around chatting shite the way she did a lot fewer people would be resisting vaccines, masks, etc.

This probably is more of an After Hours thread.

I’d tell her to log onto Boards and read what the conspiracy theorists are saying. It would give her a laugh during the tough times ahead.

so you think we should put badges on people with ID? Right.

No.

they are saying people who are mask-exempt should have some sort of note or badge to prove this.

as it currently stands anyone can claim they can’t wear a mask because “have asthma” or “sensory bro”. I don’t think it needs to be said a lot of people are just being chancers.

edit: anyway, back in 2020, kids didn’t wear masks, only adults. So non issue!

Definitely true, but look at it this way:

you simply cannot park in a wheelchair accessible parking spot without a badge in the window. That’s the end of it.

should we do away with those and just have the honour system for the sake of not making people have a badge?

much like the wheelchair accessible parking badge, you don’t need to have it on the note or badge what the exemption is for just simply this person has an underlying condition which makes mask wearing difficult/impossible.

i honestly don’t see the big deal & as someone with a condition that makes breathing hard while wearing masks I’d happily take one myself. As it stands I generally just suffer in discomfort because I cba having an argument with someone over it.

Well, Johnson has been in charge throughout the period of the virus in the UK and has been consistently deplorable.

As for Biden, what could he do right now? The virus roll out was done very well, so too the booster. He introduced federal vaccine mandates which were challenged in the courts but I think have been upheld. He's competing against Republican Governors and Conservative media which has tried intensely to undermine the message about the vaccine, the wearing of masks and any sort of lockdowns. This counter message is so focused by the likes of Fox, inspite of their hosts all being vaccinated, that even Trump was booed when announced recently that he had gotten the booster.

Biden should be doing better in a lot of areas, but don't think there's any comparison between his performance and that of his predecessors.