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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭bloopy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,247 ✭✭✭robbiezero




  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    That's going against all the data from SA, and Denmark. Isn't there something fishy about those Imperial reports anyway?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,280 ✭✭✭duffman13


    Wait period following infection for a booster shortened to 3 months now. Not sure how I feel about that one tbh



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭M_Murphy57



    Equally introducing a 5 day quarantine for triple vaxxed close contacts. We will be lucky if any healthcare staff can go back to work in January.


    Again, absolutely no basis, just an arbitrary decision to keep doctors and nurses out for the best part of a week every time theyre in contact with a positive person (which will be often given they work in hospitals)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭M_Murphy57



    Yes they would have to declare those as income.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,615 ✭✭✭bikeman1


    According to the article

    "The company last year received ‘other operating income’ of €917,093."

    This would be the EWSS, CRSS, Government re-start grants, Failte Ireland grants and any other non-revenue income for the period. This was to the end of January 2021. You can be sure that the number has doubled since then as they would have had full trade in the 6 weeks up to Covid hitting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,668 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Why not, you took two without knowing if they were safe or not ?

    Niccolò Machiavelli :

    "To ally with great powers to defeat your neighbour is a strategic trap; if you win, you become the slave of the greater power; if the allied power is defeated, you remain alone and defenceless against the angry neighbour, and you are destroyed." - Niccolò Machiavelli



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,229 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Manageable for them . Maybe Boris was right again . Or to word correctly. Maybe he will turn out right rolling the dice on something so serious for his own political survival. Sometimes it's better to be lucky ..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭Tom_Crean


    Or is it testing maxing out and people not getting tested? I suppose their positivity rates might reveal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,993 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭floorpie


    Perhaps, I don't know. It'll take 6-9 months to write/publish a paper similar to the above using current data. We can check back next winter!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,668 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Good point testing is down 100K today compared to yesterday. Up 2 million on last week like.

    Niccolò Machiavelli :

    "To ally with great powers to defeat your neighbour is a strategic trap; if you win, you become the slave of the greater power; if the allied power is defeated, you remain alone and defenceless against the angry neighbour, and you are destroyed." - Niccolò Machiavelli



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭Tom_Crean


    UK deaths up very slightly to my untrained eye. At 172. For 2 months they tended to average 150. Might be a daily thing and still delta related, more than likely. One thing to watch.



  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Not me. Behaving just as normal (albeit have to consider where to go in the evenings after 8)

    got to Dublin for Christmas yesterday and it’s jarring having to leave at 8



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭floorpie


    You said:

    The findings show a secondary infection rate of 13% from a vaccinated index case to unvaccinated contacts versus a 22% secondary infection rate from an unvaccinated index case to unvaccinated contacts.

    and

    To state that "The only increase in transmission they find is from unvacc -> unvacc" is simply untrue. It is not stated in the linked article, it is your misunderstanding of the article.

    It is stated in the article, and you also stated it

    If you were vaccinated you were 63% less likely to pass on infection to an unvaccinated person you were living with than if you were unvaccinated.

    Right, like I said, they ONLY show increased transmission from unvacc -> unvacc.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭Tom_Crean


    The back benchers or the data? That is the question. A conflicting imperial college survey saying omicron as severe as other variants.

    Or just realism. People will meet at Christmas regardless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,972 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Did you read this bit?

    ......they see "no evidence of Omicron having lower severity than Delta, judged by either the proportion of people testing positive who report symptoms, or by the proportion of cases seeking hospital care after infection."

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭Tom_Crean


    Watching the weather models and forum here. Still a chance of snowfall late Christmas night into Stephen's Day and the period between Christmas and New Year.

    Outdoor snowball fights after 8pm would be healthy and fun, after coming from the pub 😉



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭sekond


    I am. But only because we have my elderly vulnerable mother coming to us for Christmas Day. So I'm keeping things quiet until then - both from not wanting to pass anything on to her, but also that if we were contagious/isolating etc, she'd be spending the Christmas alone. I'm lucky enough to work from home, so since last weekend, I'm just going out for shopping etc. I'll keep the social events for after Christmas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭Tom_Crean


    Just got a negative covid test back. Have sore throat, chest infection and headache.

    Relieved. I can enjoy Christmas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,668 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Niccolò Machiavelli :

    "To ally with great powers to defeat your neighbour is a strategic trap; if you win, you become the slave of the greater power; if the allied power is defeated, you remain alone and defenceless against the angry neighbour, and you are destroyed." - Niccolò Machiavelli



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,249 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    5,279 new cases.

    Seems pretty stable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,712 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Nope, it is not stated in the article. Or stated by me. You continue to repeat your misunderstanding. Multiple posters have pointed this out to you. You need to go away and re-read the article. Because you are falsely representing its declared results and findings.

    Do you understand what "vaccinated index case" means?

    You simply have not understood the excerpted sentences or the article if you continue to repeat the error that "the only increase in transmission they find is from unvacc -> unvacc".

    This is a fiction you have invented and continue to double down on, in spite of the contradiction in black and white contradicting you.

    In the previous post I asked you: "If you were vaccinated you were 63% less likely to pass on infection to an unvaccinated person you were living with than if you were unvaccinated. Do you realise what that means?"

    Come back to us when you do.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Considering the bad luck your namesake had i wouldn't count your chickens, 😂 have a good Christmas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    5,279 new cases, Omi the dominant now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭Tom_Crean


    My, layman's guess, for the coming months would be the following.

    After the Christmas break, around 27/28 December, there'll be some 'concern' at high case figures. I think towards 10th January hospitalisations will peak around 800 patients. ICU around 170. Last year our deaths were around 50 a day average. Given vaccinations etc I sincerely hope later January will see peak deaths of 15 a day. Currently we're around 7 people.

    Schools will close until February, most will WFH. I think the current restrictions on hospitality will lift on 30 January. I expect February to see vast improvement in hospitalisations and ICU. Much quicker than last year. I expect by 1 March we will live as we did in September this year and covid will drift from centre stage in our lives. We will have our best year since 2019 but will run into some seasonal covid problems, come November, lesser than 2020 and 2021. I think by mid February the worst of the wave and pandemic will be past. Hopefully we can return to our lives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    102 in ICU



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,126 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Fair play to him.

    When everyone around is loosing their minds, its important to keep yours.

    He may well yet again have played a trump card by staying open.

    "If not now,when?" could very well go down as one of the quotes of all time, he opened up months ago, and he's keeping them open, while our weak, pathetic leaders keep us shut.

    Boris wouldn't be long sorting NPHET, I'm sure of that



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