Walking on your land

Ask them what there doing and then politely ask them to leave and not return again. Just say its insurance if they tripped and fell or something, public liabilty etc , cant be on the land.

Depends on the person and dog. And depends on the field in question. And depends on the time of year.

A certain type with a lurcher would be ran.

A stranger with a Labrador and seems a genuine sort In winter, no real sweat. In spring I might have a word to say not to ever enter if there are animals in the field or similar and mention that as dog droppings can cause abortions in cows etc also. Reminder on gates etc.

(Also if the dog so happens to get off its leash and worries the cattle the farmer is within their rights to shoot it, as doing so protects their animals and the farmers livelihood. That's a rather fine deterrent.)

Aa Herdquitter has said, they would be escorted to the nearest exit and told that they are not to return. It would be explained to them that this is my work place and only invited guests (contractors etc) are required to be here.

Why would anyone think that I would want the liability of them and their dogs on my private property?

I’d be reporting them ASAP to local gun club. Gun club or no gun club they absolutely need permission of the landowner. Ridiculous perception that landowners signed over shooting rights to gun clubs years ago still seems to persist. Common sense would dictate that landowner is king.

and btw, I’m chairman of our local gun club and it infuriates me when members still think they can shoot wherever they like.

It's not to far off..you could go into their garden and say you are a humane bird hunter after a rare species of finch spotted in the neighbourhood but it's cool as you are a member of the local chapter of bird snappers ireland a non profit organisation dedicated to the pursuit of the most high definition photos of our feathered friends ...and btw don't worry about the lad in your kitchen snaffling all the ginger nuts ....hes a friend...scool

I'd be tempted to march them to the furthest exit possible :P

Insurance not a issue. If they are on your lads they are considered a trespassers, you owe no duty of care to them unless you intentionally do something to harm them

Incorrect

I would almost love someone to come after me on that one. One situation where the incredible burden of a SAC designation could be of use.

Not my property, mate, go talk to the real owners. Good luck taking on the government.

Incorrect.

irrespective of whether they are trespassing or invited guests, if they can prove negligent on your part you will be liable.

That reminds me of another case in Ireland where it was Coilte or someone else being sued, what ever happened with that does anyone know? A woman tripped and damaged her knee, I know there was a big thread here about it but good luck finding it in this new disaster of a site...

Proper order too.

this would certainly contradict some of your points above in regard to duty of care and also liability. Your earlier comment above states that ‘insurance is not an issue’. Any landowner would be very naive to think like that.

This case which the circuit court heard confirms my point which simply stated that you will be liable if found negligent.

unless for course Bass you argue that the circuit court should not be interrupting law........ it’s irrelevant that the high court overturned it as that’s why Appeal processes are in place in any jurisdiction. High court regularly overturn decisions on appeal.

Going back to gun clubs and hunters on land. All gun club members are insured with the NARGC which is a full comprehensive insurance covering individuals, their shooting party, their dog and any damage they may do to livestock or property and they are generally very good at paying out. All members are obliged to carry their membership card with them when out hunting. The card is the size of a credit card and contains their name , club name and date of birth so simply ask to see their card in the first instance will confirm who they are and if they are members of their local club

NARGC are typically very good to pay out and pay out quickly. However, like any insurance there is a few small prints that they must adhere to:

1. all accidents must be reported within 24 hours
2. shooting party must be limited to 3 guns
3. all in party must be NARGC members
4. the exception to 2 above is on say fox shoots where you will typically have a lot more than 3. Clubs are obliged to contact their county secretary to inform of said fox hunt and pay a nominal fee of €20 and they are all insured. Many clubs don’t do this unfortunately.

Lasting piece, if as a landowner you’re in doubt, put them out